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Post by sparky58 on Oct 10, 2022 18:12:47 GMT -5
Hello. I have a newly discovered Billy the Kid tintype. The facial recognition work backs it up. The face is close to the same angle as the known Billy the Kid tintype. It’s has a slightly turned face where the known Billy is facing forward. The chin of Billy is raised slightly more in the known tintype also. Both images share a common birth mark. It passes recognition apps at 86 percent. Pretty solid number considering 2 tintypes are being compared. My tintype has some scratching and staining that likely drops the percentage points quite a bit. I need advice.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 10, 2022 18:17:56 GMT -5
Also if anybody can tell me how to add pics, I’ll add them
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Post by RonBk on Oct 11, 2022 2:46:51 GMT -5
If youre on a mobile device, look for the switch to "desktop" located in the lower right corner of the page. In desktop mode you will see the picture attachment tool showing up for comments.
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Post by Wayne Land on Oct 11, 2022 10:38:05 GMT -5
Click “Reply” in the upper right corner of the area where you type your message. Do not click “Post Quick Reply”. You’ll see the message box with icons across the top. Click “Add Attachment” in the upper right corner. Then click “Add Files” and find your image.
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Post by leeb on Oct 11, 2022 13:28:49 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing this Billy. Perhaps it's different from the other 1000's.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 11, 2022 16:04:55 GMT -5
Here are the pics. I’m not very good on these forums. Please have patience. Thanks for your help.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 11, 2022 16:06:33 GMT -5
Here’s the the other facial recognition work
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Post by DanJohno on Oct 11, 2022 19:16:15 GMT -5
Great pic. Thanks for posting. New photos like this are exciting and are the main reason why I check in to this message board everyday. There's definitely a resemblance.
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Post by Wayne Land on Oct 12, 2022 17:38:38 GMT -5
I am very intrigued by the photo. I've compared it to the tintype using my tracing and it appears all the facial features match up almost perfectly except for one thing. The face is much more narrow than the Dedrick tintype. Of course this could easily be due to a possible age difference as well as loss or gain of weight from one picture to the other. From the standpoint of matching, this is the closest I've ever seen to matching the tintype. I believe it is a reverse image just like the tintype. You can look at the seam on the front of the trousers and see which direction the flap overlays. I'd like to do a bit more prep on it first and then I'll share, with sparky58's permission?
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 12, 2022 17:52:13 GMT -5
You absolutely have my permission to use the photograph. That’s what brought me here. I’m looking for help on it. Thank you.
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Post by montanas on Oct 13, 2022 12:19:30 GMT -5
Just curious. What's the provenance?
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Post by leeb on Oct 13, 2022 15:00:20 GMT -5
Just curious. What's the provenance? There won't be any, FAKE!
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 13, 2022 16:41:48 GMT -5
I purchased the tintype from a man in Hollywood, CA. When I asked him the history of the ownership, I was told he owned it for 20 years. He told me he purchased it in Maui. I asked him if it came along with anything else when he purchased it? He said he bought it by itself and that he believed he sold it to the right man. The messaging was done electronically. I still have it. He accompanied the tintype with a pen written letter on a folded piece of card stock basically saying what I just told you. I didn’t press him any further.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 13, 2022 16:43:32 GMT -5
Does anybody know what the “There won’t be any fake” comment means
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Post by Wayne Land on Oct 13, 2022 17:01:02 GMT -5
I suppose he’s just suggesting that there won’t be any provenance because the photo is fake. He’s being obtuse which seems to be his inclination. However, if you have no provenance the historian’s/expert’s opinion will be that there is no way to confirm the photo is of Billy. Just going by the look and measurements I’ve done, I believe it could be him at a younger age than when the legendary tintype was taken. Sorry I haven’t posted my tracing yet, but I will get to it soon. Thanks for submitting this photo on the board. Unfortunately, what is often not understood by some is that no matter how many photos are out there claiming to be Billy that are not him, it is still possible someone will find one that is.
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