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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 14:55:28 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedFor those of you who are learning facial recognition. It’s all in the ears. Here to teach the world. I give you Billy the Kid.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 15:03:27 GMT -5
Is there any debate on the facial recognition besides weight? I think if we are to the point of speculating whether Billy would get his photo taken and speculating why someone would sell it and speculate whether it’s a tintype, then it’s sounds like we agree the facial recognition lines up. Also it’s a tintype. I don’t have to speculate.
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Post by chivato88 on Oct 15, 2022 16:44:50 GMT -5
You need to calm down, not everyone here will agree with you.
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Post by antonio on Oct 15, 2022 17:30:18 GMT -5
View AttachmentFor those of you who are learning facial recognition. It’s all in the ears. Here to teach the world. I give you Billy the Kid. I disagree. Not the same ears. Look at Billy’s lobes. They don’t attach to the face like they do on the kid in the new tintype. Do you not see the gap at the bottom of Billy’s ears? Not the same man.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:03:40 GMT -5
The lobe appearance in that scan is not exactly true. Here is a purer form of the tintype. The view of the ear in my tintype is an angled face. The known Billy is straight forward. The body is also angled away from the camera. The known BTK is a straight forward stance. His shoulders are parallel with camera lens. There is nothing but black hair behind that ear. My tintype has skin of the neck behind the lobe and again it’s angled to the camera.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:11:19 GMT -5
If you don’t have a dumbo ear pull it out with your fingers and look in the mirror face forward towards the mirror. Shoulders parallel to the mirror. Look at that lobe. Now start to turn your shoulder like my tintype. Watch the appearance shrink as neck skin goes behind. A slight turn is a big difference in appearance. Again here to teach.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:15:49 GMT -5
Can we all agree the shoulders are at different reference points in the images being compared? Can we then agree some mental rolling of the face is needed when comparing? Can that be established? I’ve tried to establish that a few times. Can that be established that the bodies are at different angles? Does anybody else see that or is it just me?
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:29:27 GMT -5
Can we agree on the shoulders? The shoulders are squared up in the known. Mine his right shoulder(or left if it’s a reverse negative) is angled away from the camera? Can we agree on that?
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:39:56 GMT -5
You are talking about a tiny difference in the appearance of an ear lobe. I have a more than valid rebuttal. I assume the majority of us have the ability to see and I know we all have faces. My point is very easily backed up. Just look in the mirror or use the camera on your phone. See I’m right about the ear lobe. Turn your shoulder and face like the images being compared. Billy’s ear sticks out like dumbo. To be fair to your facial recognition experiment pull your ear out like dumbo so it’s parallel to your mirror or phone.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 18:44:26 GMT -5
If the faces are at different angles and the ears are the exact width is it the same person? With every slight turn of your head features shrink or get bigger. That is why I reiterated that the chins and faces are at different angles in the images. Again slight rolling required.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 19:09:41 GMT -5
I do apologize for the cockiness. I’ve been through this battle before. When comparing two images, I’ve never had the face at the exact reference point. If the faces aren’t at the exact angles, features should appropriately appear different. There is minor face rolling required in this image. The amount of difference in appearance coincides with the angle of the body. That is what makes a person good at facial recognition, their mind’s ability to roll a face.
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Post by antonio on Oct 15, 2022 19:27:02 GMT -5
If you don’t have a dumbo ear pull it out with your fingers and look in the mirror face forward towards the mirror. Shoulders parallel to the mirror. Look at that lobe. Now start to turn your shoulder like my tintype. Watch the appearance shrink as neck skin goes behind. A slight turn is a big difference in appearance. Again here to teach. If Billy turns his head his lobes aren’t going to suddenly attach to his face. Actually the opposite. You would see a curve at the bottom of the ear like seen below. But I will tell you this. I honestly hope I’m wrong and you are right. Because I’m obsessed with BTK. And would love for this to be him.
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 20:18:34 GMT -5
In my tintype the appearance of the connection of the lobe/ear is angled. Your are not going to see the exact mirror image as an ear exactly paralleled with the camera. Angling creates illusions. I’m sure your old enough to remember the old family portrait photographers. When he told you chin up. Head left. Left more. He’s positioning your face to make you most appealing to the view. If you have big ears. He’ll turn your head to obscure that view of your big ears. Understand?
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Post by sparky58 on Oct 15, 2022 20:22:05 GMT -5
The view is obscured by the angle. The jaw and neck mesh into the view of the ear with the angle. Trust me, I already know it’s him. You won’t be breaking my heart. Aren’t you the guy who was hyping up some eBay listing for 10 million?
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