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Post by DanJohno on Aug 18, 2021 6:51:45 GMT -5
I meant looking in Alias Billy the Kid instead of Authentic life of Billy the kid
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Post by texas truth teller on Aug 18, 2021 18:55:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry to say that the original edition of "Alias Billy the Kid", University of New Mexico Press, copyright 1955, contains no such description by Pat Garrett. Perhaps the author of the reprint made a few changes. A search of the text for "hazel" showed it was found only in the affidavit of Robert E Lee, and in a footnote about "The Story f the Outlaw", by Emerson Hough, published in 1902 Pat Garrett is not mentioned on page 35. Contents of the original edition were not divided into chapters. Pages 14 though 50, "Brushy's Story"; Pages 59 through 64, "The Tangled Web"; Pages 65 through 75, "Be He Alive or Be He Dead"; Pages 76 through 86, "In Black and White"; Pages 87 through 90, "Epilogue". Appendices A through G are found on pages 91 through 130, followed by the index, pages 133 through 136. The original printing of "Alias Billy the Kid" can be accessed on line, free, at Hathi Trust. Search for "alias billy the kid" on Hathi Trust, and select "Full View". I said The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid by, Pat Garrett and Ash Upson. Remember, Pat is supposed to be doing the writing of the book. You are correct. The text on page 21 of the original printing describes Billy the Kid's eyes as "a deep blue, dotted with spots of a hazel hue". Garrett/Upson also said Billy the Kid, parents, and brother emigrated to Coffeyville, Kansas in 1862, but some records indicate Coffeyville was not founded until 1869. Garrett/Upson also said that Billy the Kid's mother married William Antrim in Colorado, but church records indicate they were married in Santa Fe, NM, about March 1873. Garrett/Upson also said Billy was 4 or 5 ar the time, but if he had been born in New York City in 1859 as Garrett/Upson said, Billy would have been about 14. Much information provided by Garrett/Upson is not reliable. What information is reliable?
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Post by DanJohno on Aug 18, 2021 19:49:48 GMT -5
I said The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid by, Pat Garrett and Ash Upson. Remember, Pat is supposed to be doing the writing of the book. You are correct. The text on page 21 of the original printing describes Billy the Kid's eyes as "a deep blue, dotted with spots of a hazel hue". Garrett/Upson also said Billy the Kid, parents, and brother emigrated to Coffeyville, Kansas in 1862, but some records indicate Coffeyville was not founded until 1869. Garrett/Upson also said that Billy the Kid's mother married William Antrim in Colorado, but church records indicate they were married in Santa Fe, NM, about March 1873. Garrett/Upson also said Billy was 4 or 5 ar the time, but if he had been born in New York City in 1859 as Garrett/Upson said, Billy would have been about 14. Much information provided by Garrett/Upson is not reliable. What information is reliable? If you are now saying that much information provided by Garrett is not reliable doesn't that weaken the argument that Oat Garrett definitely shot and killed Billy the kid? *Please note the name spelling of Oat is not a typing mistake
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Post by cassandra jane on Aug 19, 2021 3:09:33 GMT -5
You are correct. The text on page 21 of the original printing describes Billy the Kid's eyes as "a deep blue, dotted with spots of a hazel hue". Garrett/Upson also said Billy the Kid, parents, and brother emigrated to Coffeyville, Kansas in 1862, but some records indicate Coffeyville was not founded until 1869. Garrett/Upson also said that Billy the Kid's mother married William Antrim in Colorado, but church records indicate they were married in Santa Fe, NM, about March 1873. Garrett/Upson also said Billy was 4 or 5 ar the time, but if he had been born in New York City in 1859 as Garrett/Upson said, Billy would have been about 14. Much information provided by Garrett/Upson is not reliable. What information is reliable? If you are now saying that much information provided by Garrett is not reliable doesn't that weaken the argument that Oat Garrett definitely shot and killed Billy the kid? *Please note the name spelling of Oat is not a typing mistake Conversely, the discussion in their book about the family moving to an as-yet-unfounded Coffeyville etc, could surely be used to bolster Brushy’s Buffalo Gap story? If Garrett and Upson made that “mistake” maybe it wasn’t a mistake so much as a retrospective - referring to it as its name at the time of writing a book or confessing his identity rather than the long-winded “well it didn’t exist back then so technically they/I were/was nomadic/born driftless”.
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Post by RonBk on Aug 19, 2021 6:31:41 GMT -5
Coffeyville is not that far from Buffalo Gap, so it could make sense. Perhaps Garrett got it almost right? Or perhaps the family really did move to Coffeyville, since that was close to Buffalo Gap its not far fetched.
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Post by montanas on Aug 28, 2021 17:34:32 GMT -5
I thought Sederwalds first paragraph was interesting. truewestmagazine.com/billy-the-kids-bad-bucks. I did not know the kid actually had a connection with Jessie James. I knew Brushy had been with Dalton who said he was JJ. If Brushy wasn't BTK, then he must have at least been aware of a kid james association, if not but through a third party
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