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Post by MissyS on Aug 14, 2020 16:09:35 GMT -5
I found a reference of a man named William (Julian’) Miller that had disappeared from his family and no one has ever seen him since according to his son Abran Miller taken in an interview by Edith Crawford in 1938 the interview is interesting how Abran met Billy the Kid, but what is odd is what he said about his father, after giving him a Black Stallion and handing over his blacksmith shop he simply walked away never to be seen again, this man had five children. I thought it maybe possible he could have some connection to Billy Barlow or John Miller? I know it’s a stretch but it maybe possible he changed his name and started a new life as John Miller? The interview of Abran Miller starts in the middle of page 24, lincolncountycousins.org/1home/sf-tm.pdf#page24
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Miller
Aug 14, 2020 17:27:58 GMT -5
Post by Texas Truth Teller on Aug 14, 2020 17:27:58 GMT -5
So leeb, do you and texas truth teller write books? It seems you have money invested that Brushy isn’t Billy. Nope. Just an aversion to a frivolous version of history; famous characters who supposedly lived on after death. Brushy Bill Roberts was Oliver P Roberts, not Billy the Kid. John Frank Dalton (among several other claimants) was not Jesse Woodson James. John St Helen was not John Wilkes Booth. William C Anderson was not William T "Bloody Bill" Anderson. Joe Vaughn was not Frank James. Charles Clarke Quantrill was not known as Charley Hart.
An alias is a good cover story in these cases, so verifiable facts do not exist.
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Miller
Aug 15, 2020 8:21:41 GMT -5
Post by leeb on Aug 15, 2020 8:21:41 GMT -5
So leeb, do you and texas truth teller write books? It seems you have money invested that Brushy isn’t Billy. Your correct, brushy isn't billy he's Oliver P Roberts born Arkansas 1879.
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Miller
Aug 15, 2020 8:24:09 GMT -5
Post by leeb on Aug 15, 2020 8:24:09 GMT -5
So leeb, do you and texas truth teller write books? It seems you have money invested that Brushy isn’t Billy. Leeb needs to take a pill and calm down, he knows the truth is coming out slowly 😁 Please elaborate if you don't mind, what truth would that be with evidence to clarify?? I'm looking forward to your response.
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Miller
Aug 15, 2020 16:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by chivato88 on Aug 15, 2020 16:52:47 GMT -5
Leeb needs to take a pill and calm down, he knows the truth is coming out slowly 😁 Please elaborate if you don't mind, what truth would that be with evidence to clarify?? I'm looking forward to your response.
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Post by chivato88 on Aug 15, 2020 16:59:22 GMT -5
The Sedillos girl incident and Severo Gallegos are good enough proof for me among other things, Im also condident that more evidence will be discovered in the near future that will support Brushy's claim. I dont see how he could not have been Billy...
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Post by kerry on Aug 15, 2020 17:10:29 GMT -5
Yes 3T - an alias is a good cover story when you are also presumed dead as were both BTK and Evans - so much so that their true identity had ceased to exist. These two friends from both sides of the LCW lived long lives unknown but to each other.Evans lived a quiet life whereas Brushy continued his adventurous ways -both trying to avoid assasination (Brushy also a death sentence) by enemies that they eventually out lived ...perhaps Pat Garrett should have changed his name?
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 11:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by leeb on Aug 16, 2020 11:10:27 GMT -5
The Sedillos girl incident and Severo Gallegos are good enough proof for me among other things, Im also condident that more evidence will be discovered in the near future that will support Brushy's claim. I dont see how he could not have been Billy... well that was a bit of a damp squib!
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 13:05:19 GMT -5
Post by Wayne Land on Aug 16, 2020 13:05:19 GMT -5
Let's all try to refrain from posting comments that are aimed at simply belittling someone else's idea. Everyone here is entitled to his/her own ideas. If you wish to suggest someone else has made a comment that isn't reasonable then present your ideas why you believe that or stay out of it. Please!
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 13:57:22 GMT -5
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Post by leeb on Aug 16, 2020 13:57:22 GMT -5
Let's all try to refrain from posting comments that are aimed at simply belittling someone else's idea. Everyone here is entitled to his/her own ideas. If you wish to suggest someone else has made a comment that isn't reasonable then present your ideas why you believe that or stay out of it. Please! obviously aimed at me Wayne? Comments and derogatory statements made towards myself are overlooked but then I'm not a believer in old brushy's stories! I'm not bothered about anyone else's comments or opinions it doesn't upset me. I ain't a great fan of double standards though.
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Post by Wayne Land on Aug 16, 2020 14:56:02 GMT -5
There are no double standards here. My post was not directed at any one person, but if you feel it applies to you then please try to follow my requests but I can assure you, you are not the only one. As creator and host of this message board, I believe I have the right to make such requests. I just prefer that everyone rein in the sarcasm. If a post is that and only that then it is out of line, no matter who did it.
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 15:13:30 GMT -5
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Post by leeb on Aug 16, 2020 15:13:30 GMT -5
There are no double standards here. My post was not directed at any one person, but if you fill it applies to you then please try to follow my requests. As creator and host of this message board, I believe I have the right to make such requests. I do fill it applies to anyone who disagrees with Wayne and the anti brushy society? As the outstanding host that you are you should consider that we all don't fall into the old man's fantasy and shouldn't be frowned upon because we believe the actual facts!
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 15:46:00 GMT -5
Post by Wayne Land on Aug 16, 2020 15:46:00 GMT -5
I don't frown on you for what you believe. No one can accuse me of that. Years ago, I was banned from a popular BTK message board because I supported Brushy's story. I refuse to have that happen to anyone on this message board no matter which side they're on. The only people I've ever banned from this board are the ones placing ads for products they want to sell that have nothing to do with the Old West. But if I wanted to shut you up or somehow disallow you from expressing your opinion, I could ban you from this board with one click of the mouse. What I'm asking is simply that everyone respect each other enough not to post messages that have "zero" purpose other than making fun of what someone else has said, or belittling other people's opinions. Those posts have no place here and will not be tolerated from any member. If you object to this and can not do what I'm asking, then you can voluntarily leave at any time.
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Miller
Aug 16, 2020 16:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by chivato88 on Aug 16, 2020 16:34:47 GMT -5
This is a bit my fault so I apologize, even to you Leeb
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Post by Wayne Land on Aug 16, 2020 16:42:30 GMT -5
Thanks for that chivato.
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