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Post by MissyS on Feb 28, 2022 3:19:35 GMT -5
Can anyone ID these men, sorry about poor quality. This is my rare postcard allegedly showing the real Billy the Kid. Maybe this was the photo Brushy made with the Jones boys up in Dodge City. These people look familiar tho.<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button>I<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I recently stumbled across maybe a little clearer image of that postcard.   |
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Post by RonBk on Feb 28, 2022 17:54:45 GMT -5
The top left person looks quiet a lot like its a woman. However, could it be its actually a boy? Those shoulders are quiet broad arent they? Is this Billy dressed up as a girl? Anyone else having issues determining the gender here? Aint there something familiar about the shape of those eyebrows?
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 28, 2022 18:19:50 GMT -5
The top left person looks quiet a lot like its a woman. However, could it be its actually a boy? Those shoulders are quiet broad arent they? Is this Billy dressed up as a girl? Anyone else having issues determining the gender here? Aint there something familiar about the shape of those eyebrows? Looks like a young man but his skin looks quite soft, might be a woman too... I cant confirm 100%. The bottom left guy looks mean and rough |
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Post by Wayne Land on Feb 28, 2022 18:52:06 GMT -5
I don't think that's a woman. Clues for me include the clothes. It looks like a coat that a man would wear over a shirt that buttons at the neck. The shirt does look feminine but the coat does not and the person is wearing pants rather than a skirt as you can see the hand in the pants pocket. The hair is long but there certainly were men and boys in that time period that had long hair. I agree the skin looks soft but that doesn't prove anything either way. Let's assume for a moment that it is indeed a male. Is it Billy The Kid? One ear protrudes more than the other and yes the eyebrows remind me of the Dedrick tintype, but that's not enough. Count me undecided.
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Post by RonBk on Mar 1, 2022 0:07:03 GMT -5
The guy standing top right could be Doc Scurlock?
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Post by MissyS on Mar 1, 2022 0:41:24 GMT -5
The guy standing top right could be Doc Scurlock? Good observation! There is a pic of Skurlock that does resemble that man. I think the man top middle standing looks to resemble a younger Texas outlaw King Fisher maybe?, the tie looks very similar too in this image of him   |
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Post by MissyS on Mar 1, 2022 2:19:46 GMT -5
I believe also the bottom left man sitting looking so rough and tough could be Billy Dixon?, he resembles him quite a bit to me, with shorter hair of course.  However looking real close at the postcard he may have the long hair it’s just hard to notice because the image is a little dark? www.legendsofamerica.com/we-billydixon/ |
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Post by leeb on Mar 4, 2022 14:58:22 GMT -5
This is obviously a postcard for tourists, 40s maybe 50s. Date of original photograph would be helpful.
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Post by RonBk on Mar 4, 2022 18:29:05 GMT -5
This is obviously a postcard for tourists, 40s maybe 50s. Date of original photograph would be helpful. How is this obvious? |
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Post by leeb on Mar 5, 2022 6:21:39 GMT -5
Postcards containing a picture of the kid, which in this case is a woman wouldn't have been necessary until after the Billy tourist boom. Saying it's the kid sells.
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Post by MissyS on Mar 5, 2022 17:49:10 GMT -5
The guy standing top right could be Doc Scurlock?
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Post by chivato88 on Mar 6, 2022 7:03:41 GMT -5
The guy standing top right could be Doc Scurlock?
Wow the resemblance |
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Post by MissyS on Nov 7, 2022 1:54:51 GMT -5
Can anyone ID these men, sorry about poor quality. This is my rare postcard allegedly showing the real Billy the Kid. Maybe this was the photo Brushy made with the Jones boys up in Dodge City. These people look familiar tho.<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button><button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button>I<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I recently stumbled across maybe a little clearer image of that postcard. I don’t know if these two have been compared before?, I apologize if a comparison was posted of the man the postcard may have been referring to as Billy the Kid and the one of Brushy. Just looking I see some similarities between the two.   |
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Post by guestofbillys on Nov 7, 2022 16:31:23 GMT -5
The woman could be Belle Starr, far right is Doc Skurlock; Far right sitting is Pat Garrett, to his left sitting his Billy/Brush and to his left sitting is Jose Chavez Y Chavez. Top middle I am not sure but could be Ab Saunders.
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Post by MissyS on Nov 8, 2022 10:58:31 GMT -5
The woman could be Belle Starr, far right is Doc Skurlock; Far right sitting is Pat Garrett, to his left sitting his Billy/Brush and to his left sitting is Jose Chavez Y Chavez. Top middle I am not sure but could be Ab Saunders. I was kinda assuming the one standing at far left was the one the postcard was referring to as being Billy the Kid because the card states that the photo is of him before turning outlaw with five cronies, who formed the first gun club in the early days of the west, if this is true then the Billy the Kid pictured would have to be a teenager, and the one standing on the left is the one in the group that comes closest to passing as a teenager, the clothing looks more like a man than a woman’s, I can see similarities with it and one of Brushy, the shape of the eyes and brows, but it may be Belle Starr and maybe the postcard is misleading or not correct on the information? Some of these postcards printed have a little added information that the gun club was in Western Kansas, I don’t know why some of the postcards printed that but not all? I don’t know if Belle Starr hung out in Western Kansas area? Billy was described by the press in 1880 of having traditional silky fuzz on his upper lip, and the man sitting looks to have more of a thick mustache. It’s a mystery of which one is who? The postcard below shows Western Kansas others don’t say that, and oddly the suit jacket on the man sitting on far left is different from the other postcard also.  |
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However looking real close at the postcard he may have the long hair it’s just hard to notice because the image is a little dark?