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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 3:45:26 GMT -5
Do anyone know the story of this photo, where it came from? After studying it more closely I feel quiet strongly that it actually is Billy the kid. Everything matches, eyes, nose, mouth.. its all the same. Look at the shape of the nose. Perhaps a bit younger, a year or two? What do you guys think?
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Post by MissyS on Dec 17, 2020 7:21:16 GMT -5
I noticed looking closely at the full view where his leg is crossed, it looks to me like he’s missing his lower leg?and it looks as though the pant leg is cut short, and the material looks tattered, if the man in the photo is missing his lower leg then it can’t be Billy the Kid.
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Post by tboor74 on Dec 17, 2020 8:43:45 GMT -5
I thought it was his pants tucked into his boot? Unless I'm looking at a different pic?
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Post by MissyS on Dec 17, 2020 9:10:07 GMT -5
It could be a trick of the eye kinda thing, because of the tattered fabric on the pants it looks like one pant leg was cut short? But I’m looking at just the top portion of his legs, and without seeing his feet I can’t really tell for sure, the photo may be less clear on my end also, lighter maybe?
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Post by montanas on Dec 17, 2020 11:20:20 GMT -5
Found this video on Youtube. Yes, someone did edit the person out of the other photo. Be interesting to see if the other two individuals have any resemblance to BTK compadres.
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Post by montanas on Dec 17, 2020 11:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 13:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 13:21:04 GMT -5
From the comments on that video:
Denis Gaubert
UPDATE: 4/1/2019: * ASTOUNDING NEWS! * Recent examination of the surface of my tintype with a 20X jeweler's loupe has revealed the carefully etched signatures "Wm H. Bonney," "John Tunstall, Esq.," and "José Chavez y Chavez" on the three subjects! Each is about 1 mm in height. And etched on the back, in similar-size script, are two paragraphs describing the date and location of the photograph, along with what appears to be a "death list" of enemies. MORE TO COME LATER FROM THE HANDWRITING EXPERTS!
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 13:23:58 GMT -5
April 1st..
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 13:30:27 GMT -5
But aside that joke the whole thing seems serious. The guy standing looks a lot like Tunstall!
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Post by montanas on Dec 17, 2020 16:37:16 GMT -5
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 17:34:29 GMT -5
And this one also, even more perhaps. His hairdo seems to match with what you can see that sticks out from the hat on the other photo.
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Post by RonBk on Dec 17, 2020 17:34:52 GMT -5
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Post by MissyS on Dec 17, 2020 21:31:41 GMT -5
I’m glad there was a full length of the photo found and a video of it, it was a trick of the eye for me. I do agree the man standing could be Tunstall, Do you think the other man resembles Jose Chavez Y Chavez as well? Looking at his photo when he was in prison, and visually comparing it to the other seated man I can see similarities in the eyebrows and nose, to me looks like he could possibly be Jose Chavez Y Chavez as a younger man without a mustache? www.desertusa.com/desert-people/chavez.html
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Post by RonBk on Dec 18, 2020 4:38:28 GMT -5
I’m glad there was a full length of the photo found and a video of it, it was a trick of the eye for me. I do agree the man standing could be Tunstall, Do you think the other man resembles Jose Chavez Y Chavez as well? Looking at his photo when he was in prison, and visually comparing it to the other seated man I can see similarities in the eyebrows and nose, to me looks like he could possibly be Jose Chavez Y Chavez as a younger man without a mustache? www.desertusa.com/desert-people/chavez.htmlYes it could definitely be Chavez Y Chavez. I think that the level of resemblance is very high on all three, I made a collage for comparison. And as long as this photo is not some kind of fake, if it indeed is a tintype image from the 1880s, the probability is very high that it really is Billy in my opinion. The clothing of Billy matching and all. Also the pose with Tunstall standing up with his hands on the others shoulders, just like a boss who really likes his employees and are friends with them. It all adds up. The only explanation I can think of this is not Billy would be if its a faked image.
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