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Post by RonBk on Nov 3, 2020 14:53:45 GMT -5
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Post by tboor74 on Nov 4, 2020 4:53:34 GMT -5
Very interesting. If it was used by Hines to prove his case that alone is amazing.
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Post by Wayne Land on Nov 4, 2020 12:03:29 GMT -5
I'll chime in here I guess. Two things. One, I don't think the guy in the middle looks like BTK. Two, according to historian Brett Hall, Hines' true identity was not Jesse Evans. It's been a long time since I read his book, but I think he said Hines was actually Jimmy Campbell, who wanted to remain anonymous thus Morrison agreed to say he was Jesse Evans instead. I no longer have Brett's book but maybe someone else does and can share more detail about that. All that said, Brett Hall may have been wrong about Hines and that photo might show Billy in a different lighting, younger, etc. The photo certainly "could be" real. I'm just saying I have my doubts.
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Post by RonBk on Nov 5, 2020 17:44:30 GMT -5
Ok, thanks for the response! I think further research on Hines would be most interesting as it might bring forward new evidence on Brushy. Got to get Bretts book.
I've seen on the board some think Evans and William Campbell could be the same person. But maybe there are two different Campbells here? And also, could it not be that even if Brett Hall was right about Hines, it could still be true that it is Hines/Campbell and BTK in the photo?
Furthermore, I must insist the kid in the middle here do share some facial features with BTK/W.H.Roberts. Its exactly the same shape of the ears. The rest of the face is also similar in appearance, if you take into consideration the difference in age and also shadows/lighting. The lines of the eyes would match perfectly if you only removed some of the shadow.
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Post by RonBk on Nov 6, 2020 3:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by RonBk on Nov 16, 2020 16:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by RonBk on Nov 19, 2020 5:25:40 GMT -5
Its also very interesting that the kid in the photo alledgedly provided by Hines/Evans/Campbell is indeed a very strong match to the photo that Brushy had in his possesion of himself as a child. What are the odds for that? I made a collage for comparison. I also added one other possible btk-photo that in my opinion closely resembles BTK, the one that looks like the person is shackled but with the cuffs hidden under the clothes.  |
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Post by tboor74 on Nov 19, 2020 7:31:10 GMT -5
That does seem a fairly detailed account of the demise of William Campbell |
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Post by clydec on Nov 24, 2020 21:33:55 GMT -5
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Post by tboor74 on Nov 25, 2020 5:03:02 GMT -5
Through a new shape-finding algorithm called "image ray transform," which boasts 99.6 percent accuracy, according to a study presented at the IEEE Fourth International Conference on Biometrics Sept. 29, the outer ear may prove to be one of the most accurate and least intrusive ways to identify people.
Hmmmm....any ear specialists?
Fingerprint databases of U.S. government agencies alone store the records of more than 100 million people, but prints can rub off or callous over during hard or repetitive labor. With the advent of computer vision, researchers and identification industries are seeking easier and more robust biometrics to get their hands on.
“When you’re born your ear is fully formed. The lobe descends a little, but overall it stays the same. It's a great way to identify people,” said Mark Nixon, a computer scientist at the University of Southampton. and leader of the research.
"There's real power in using the appearance of an ear for computer recognition, compared to facial recognition. It's roughly equivalent if not better," said computer scientist Kevin Bowyer of Notre Dame, who is pursuing his own ear-recognition technology and not involved with Nixon’s work. "If you’ve got a profile image for someone, this is a great way to use it."
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Post by montanas on Dec 14, 2020 13:19:58 GMT -5
Here is a link to a clearer fuller picture. Though it doesn't show the person standing next to him. I wonder if someone digitaly removed it. And yes, it is same sweater, whether the person in it is the same person or not. The bandana looks to be very similar also in pattern, and even more so in the tie of the knot. One other thing. When doing a scan of old west photo's, cowboys wearing sweaters seems to be rather rare. Which only seems to increase the likelihood that it could be BTK. i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/f7/70/ebf770a3cf7be501799d9a7c3bbf7b86.png |
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Post by tboor74 on Dec 14, 2020 13:36:54 GMT -5
Probability of these 2 being the same person on the face match software....very high!   |
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Post by tboor74 on Dec 14, 2020 13:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by montanas on Dec 14, 2020 17:50:24 GMT -5
The only thing about the sweater is that it is clearly more snug on this fellow than the one in the BTK tintype. Though it could have been brand new and took some time to stretch out. But I don't think that much. Also, his shoulders look to be squarer and more broad than BTK. Though again, that could be because he is seated, and the sweater has yet to have stretched. Still intriguing.
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Post by RonBk on Dec 14, 2020 18:00:58 GMT -5
Also you have to take into consideration that the sweater is not buttoned in the btk-tintype, so it sits farther out on the shoulders. Furthermore Billy looks older on this photo and probably has larger biceps plus some more thick clothing under the sweater from the looks of it. All this effects the shape of the sweater. A sweater like that would be kind of stretched and worn if theres a couple of years in between the two photos
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