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Post by texas truth teller on Feb 22, 2022 20:39:39 GMT -5
Its interesting how Dalton goes into detail here about a lot of stuff. Now this article was published in 1940 and Dalton says in it he himself was an uncle to the Dalton brothers and a cousin to the James brothers. Still his age is given as 92 years which would mean he would have been born around 1848. This is consistent with what he would claim later on when coming out as being Jesse James. So whats the most probable scenario here? Was Dalton planning the whole thing already at this time? Did he plant this birth year information as part of some scheme to make the claim of being Jesse 9 years later? Or is it in fact more likely he told the truth about his age at this point? Several stories, attributed to J Frank Dalton, appear in "The Crittenden Memoirs", by Henry Huston Houston, 1936. The full text, including Dalton's stories, is available on line at Hathi Trust. Search Hathi Trust for "Crittenden Memoirs".
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Post by RonBk on Feb 23, 2022 3:05:19 GMT -5
Its interesting how Dalton goes into detail here about a lot of stuff. Now this article was published in 1940 and Dalton says in it he himself was an uncle to the Dalton brothers and a cousin to the James brothers. Still his age is given as 92 years which would mean he would have been born around 1848. This is consistent with what he would claim later on when coming out as being Jesse James. So whats the most probable scenario here? Was Dalton planning the whole thing already at this time? Did he plant this birth year information as part of some scheme to make the claim of being Jesse 9 years later? Or is it in fact more likely he told the truth about his age at this point? Several stories, attributed to J Frank Dalton, appear in "The Crittenden Memoirs", by Henry Huston Houston, 1936. The full text, including Dalton's stories, is available on line at Hathi Trust. Search Hathi Trust for "Crittenden Memoirs". So whats your thinking on this? From reading through these stories I see two possibilities, either Dalton was telling the complete truth in them or else he was fabricating about one important fact, his own identity. The latter would be in the interest of not getting exposed as being Jesse James. Either way it seems to me Dalton had probably somehow been personally involved in these events with the James gang.
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Post by tboor74 on Feb 23, 2022 5:45:31 GMT -5
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Post by texas truth teller on Feb 23, 2022 11:54:05 GMT -5
Several stories, attributed to J Frank Dalton, appear in "The Crittenden Memoirs", by Henry Huston Houston, 1936. The full text, including Dalton's stories, is available on line at Hathi Trust. Search Hathi Trust for "Crittenden Memoirs". So whats your thinking on this? From reading through these stories I see two possibilities, either Dalton was telling the complete truth in them or else he was fabricating about one important fact, his own identity. The latter would be in the interest of not getting exposed as being Jesse James. Either way it seems to me Dalton had probably somehow been personally involved in these events with the James gang. babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015046411057&view=1up&seq=378&skin=2021&q1=daltonEvidence exists that some statements are false. "Quantrell's right name was Charles Hart......"; "......all my people are in the south, and a good many of them are in the Confederate army.... and I will not take the oath." Not true. The parents of William Clarke Quantrill were Thomas H and Caroline Clarke Quantrill. They were residents of Canal Dover, Tuscawaras County, Ohio, in 1850 and 1860. The family, including William, is incorrectly indexed as Guantvill in the 1850 census.
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Post by RonBk on Feb 23, 2022 15:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by tboor74 on Mar 2, 2022 8:47:51 GMT -5
Anyone ever heard the tale that the Anti Horse Thief Association was an offshoot, or minor rank of the Knights of the Golden Circle? The KGC often come up regarding Jesse James but i only read for the 1st time today of the links to the AHTS, which obviously ties in Brushy's tale.
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 14, 2023 7:41:22 GMT -5
watching yall argue over **** you are all 100% wrong on and have no clue where to start or end.. is honestly just hilarious.. noone alive was there.. so noone alive knows what is fact and what is fiction.. or what is true in the stories and what is a lie.. so stop acting like you do. Ok I will stop
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Post by WhisperingBillyBarlow on Nov 5, 2023 20:49:35 GMT -5
I think it likely Dalton was a Howk/Houck and if you look at the genealogy of the family it shows the family name of Barnes attached to them. It might mean nothing, but you know who else was a Barnes? Anna Lee the wife of Oliver Pleasant Roberts married a Barnes. Perhaps her husband was related to the Howk family. Perhaps that is how Brushy and Dalton came to know each other to begin with.
Of course, I'm still open to the possibility that Francis Dunn mightve thought J. Frank Dalton was Jesse James, and this is why Brushy himself thought Dalton was Jesse James. After all, Francis Dunn was Brushy's relative. Just need to try to establish Dalton ever having lived or resided near Charleston Arkansas where Dunn lived.
Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all
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