Dalton/Howk Kinship Possible

[billybarlowofficial]

www.findagrave.com/memorial/7976375/jeptha-m-howk

Jeptha Howk resided in McIntosh County Oklahoma. Now according to Ola Everhard, Dalton resided in Guthrie Oklahoma before coming out as Jesse James. Where is Guthrie? Logan County, a little over 2.2 hours away.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntosh_County_Seat_War

McIntosh did not become a county until 1907, and subsequently kicked off the McIntosh County Seat War which ended in 1909. Howk appears to have came to the area prior to that, residing in Hoffman Town which later became apart of Okmulgee County in 1919. That's 1.5 hours from Guthrie.

According to Orvus Lee Houck, Obadiah Howk was his grandfather and Dalton was his uncle. This made some wonder whether Dalton was Jeptha Howk because no death certificate allegedly exists in all of Oklahoma for him, though there's an obituary for him and of course a grave.

But if Dalton was related to Howk, and Dalton seems to fall out of the sky first appearing as lawman Frank Dalton in Oklahoma, it seems to me that it makes sense that a relative existed in the area in order for him to launch from.

I don't have access to censuses but perhaps a census record exists of some individual living in the same household as Jeptha Howk? If so perhaps that's J. Frank Dalton.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all

[MissyS]

I found a couple things. If these are the same individual? I don’t know how helpful it is? One is a notice of a Jeptha Howk moving into a house in Kirksville, Adair County, Missouri in 1890.

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn89066097/1890-10-24/ed-1/seq-3/print/image_681x648_from_2190%2C5405_to_3141%2C6311/

Another is a death notice of an infant daughter of Jeptha and Margaret Howk. The notice was also in a Kirksville, Adair County Missouri paper in 1887. Maybe it could be researched if Dalton had a daughter in 1887 to help confirm the idea that he may have been Jeptha Howk?

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn89066097/1887-07-29/ed-1/seq-3/print/image_681x648_from_2036%2C5444_to_2895%2C6262/

[billybarlowofficial]

Nov 7, 2023 12:36:43 GMT -5 MissyS said:

I found a couple things. If these are the same individual? I don’t know how helpful it is? One is a notice of a Jeptha Howk moving into a house in Kirksville, Adair County, Missouri in 1890.

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn89066097/1890-10-24/ed-1/seq-3/print/image_681x648_from_2190%2C5405_to_3141%2C6311/

Another is a death notice of an infant daughter of Jeptha and Margaret Howk. The notice was also in a Kirksville, Adair County Missouri paper in 1887. Maybe it could be researched if Dalton had a daughter in 1887 to help confirm the idea that he may have been Jeptha Howk?

chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn89066097/1887-07-29/ed-1/seq-3/print/image_681x648_from_2036%2C5444_to_2895%2C6262/

It's the same individual.

The Howk family originally came from Missouri. Most stayed in Missouri, others went to Kansas. Obediah Howk ended up in Washington state. But Jeptha Howk ended up moving into Oklahoma sometime between 1890-1900 I think because he was already there prior to the McIntosh County Seat War.

That's why I'm interested in census records, about where he was or who was in his household at different times. If a "Frank Dolby," "Frank Darby," "Frank Dalton," or some elder Howk was there it makes me wonder. As mentioned earlier elsewhere on the forum, too, there are a few Barnes's in the Howk family tree that makes me wonder if the man Anna Lee married after O.P. Roberts was in fact related to these Howk's as well.

It's all hypothetical, but I'm not the first by a longshot who speculated that Dalton was one of the Howk's especially when he just appeared out of nowhere in Oklahoma. Jeptha Howk was also in the Civil War, albeit the Union side. It could very well be a source of information that Dalton had access to, or if he was Jeptha Howk, it'd explain why he knew things about different campaigns or battles.

As I mentioned before there is an obituary for Jeptha and a gravesite, in all of Oklahoma there exists no death certificate. So it makes you wonder, if he wasn't Dalton then where is his death certificate? And if he was Dalton, then how did he fake his own death?

I know Dalton mentions Obediah Howk in his account of being Jesse James. Perhaps he let it slip somewhere about a son or grandson of Obediah faking his death. Perhaps when he speaks of another man being buried instead Jesse James, he's really referring to himself faking the death of Jeptha Howk. And maybe, perhaps, there is evidence somewhere of Henry Oliver Roberts attached to Jeptha Howk or Matthew Russell Birdwell attached to Jeptha Howk.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all