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Post by red on Dec 8, 2021 23:25:34 GMT -5
The picture on page 88-89 of Edwards book; looks like Brushy.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 16, 2022 22:27:46 GMT -5
I'm repeating a post here I put on social media. This is a photo of Brushy Bill Roberts on the left and the bronc buster from the Rough Riders in 1898 on the right. For those that believe Brushy was Oliver Pleasant Roberts I can tell you that "Ollie" was never in the Rough Riders. How would Brushy get so lucky that one of the very few bronc busters in the Rough Riders would look exactly like him? Is it reasonable to think he made it up when this photo exists? Whether you believe Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid or not, this is obviously the same man in both photos.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 16, 2022 22:37:02 GMT -5
I'm repeating a post here I put on social media. This is a photo of Brushy Bill Roberts on the left and the bronc buster from the Rough Riders in 1898 on the right. For those that believe Brushy was Oliver Pleasant Roberts I can tell you that "Ollie" was never in the Rough Riders. How would Brushy get so lucky that one of the very few bronc busters in the Rough Riders would look exactly like him? Is it reasonable to think he made it up when this photo exists? Whether you believe Brushy Bill was Billy the Kid or not, this is obviously the same man in both photos.
<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Nope I don't know what you are looking at, but that is not a identical match. Different ears, eyes, nose, hairline and mustache.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 16, 2022 23:02:09 GMT -5
Very high resemblance. I would say around 97 % probability same person in both photos. If there is ten years between the two photos that could account for some minor changes in appearence. It would fit the slight difference that is visible if Brushy would be about 10 years older in the rough riders photo. Brushy's ears are more detached. Brushy's top of his ears are not above his eyebrows. The guy on the right upper part of his ears are above his eyebrows. The guy on the right eye shape is smaller than Brushy's. Old pictures of guys with dark hair and a mustache are a dime a dozen.
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Post by RonBk on Mar 17, 2022 1:46:49 GMT -5
Very high resemblance. I would say around 97 % probability same person in both photos. If there is ten years between the two photos that could account for some minor changes in appearence. It would fit the slight difference that is visible if Brushy would be about 10 years older in the rough riders photo. Brushy's ears are more detached. Brushy's top of his ears are not above his eyebrows. The guy on the right upper part of his ears are above his eyebrows. The guy on the right eye shape is smaller than Brushy's. Old pictures of guys with dark hair and a mustache are a dime a dozen. Correct observation. However, the displacement of the ears could be an effect of the persons head being slightly tilted forward.
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Post by tboor74 on Mar 17, 2022 2:23:56 GMT -5
One thing that is astonishingly similar is the shape and detail of what can be seen of the ears
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Post by RonBk on Mar 17, 2022 9:13:47 GMT -5
One thing that is astonishingly similar is the shape and detail of what can be seen of the ears Agreed. The shape and positioning of the eyes are also remarkably similar in both photos.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 17, 2022 10:53:51 GMT -5
Brushy's ears are more detached. Brushy's top of his ears are not above his eyebrows. The guy on the right upper part of his ears are above his eyebrows. The guy on the right eye shape is smaller than Brushy's. Old pictures of guys with dark hair and a mustache are a dime a dozen. Correct observation. However, the displacement of the ears could be an effect of the persons head being slightly tilted forward.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 17, 2022 10:55:24 GMT -5
Correct observation. However, the displacement of the ears could be an effect of the persons head being slightly tilted forward.
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Post by Jeffy Dolmer The Ringer on Mar 17, 2022 10:58:39 GMT -5
Site is glitching up. Both Brushy and the other guy are looking straight into the camera. Brushy has way dorkier detached ears. Brushy has a larger eye shape.
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Post by RonBk on Mar 17, 2022 12:49:27 GMT -5
The rough riders face is clearly turned slightly to the right and also tilted a tiny bit more forward (forehead down) compared to the photo of young Brushy. Its ok to have different opinions on everything of course, but this one isnt really up for debate?
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Post by MissyS on Mar 18, 2022 11:33:30 GMT -5
Site is glitching up. Both Brushy and the other guy are looking straight into the camera. Brushy has way dorkier detached ears. Brushy has a larger eye shape. The Rough Rider looks like he may be squinting a little due to sun or wind. I believe squinting could make the eyes look smaller than normally.
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Post by garyabc on Apr 10, 2023 19:28:59 GMT -5
45 colt. After much study i have concluded that Brushy lived the best life Billy the Kid could have hoped for. I am certain to a legal certainty That Garrett did mot kill Billy. If i were Brushy, i would not pretend to be the kid. Brushy took part in more history than the Kid. As i first followed his story i would claim BS. But then randomly find supporting evidence. He claimed to have been involved in so many things. Known so many players. But in many instances if you knew the one you would likely know the others. Belle Starr was known to all who were close to Qunatrill. Buffalo Bill confided that Billy the Kid worked for him (after 1881). That he knew the Kid's father. My conclusion. Billy the Kid would have been lucky to have grown up to be Brushy.
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Post by garyabc on Apr 10, 2023 19:48:52 GMT -5
I saw the Bronc buster photos in the book Billy the Kid an Autobiography. The author states that his source material was not consistant in its naming of individuals in the pictures. Who is who is up for grabs. This story is so captivating precisely because we can not be certain of the truth. And the way we treat those who disagree with our own conclussion says more about our character than it says about the facts.
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