Bille the Kid Death Photo?

[devorerd]

So came across this on FB...This is claiming that by the end of the year he will show the photo..

He writes in the exchange: " I have documented proof that the photo on the museum wall is Billy's death photo.
It will possibly make headlines in a month or two, but surely before the end of the year"...

Thoughts on this?

[MissyS]

I don’t know why Garrett would worry about any death photo being circulated of Billy if his appearance didn’t look like him since he had witnesses that signed the death certificate and identified him, unless it wasn’t really Billy. It doesn’t make much sense to me why Billy would shave his head to disguise himself if he wore a hat or sombrero that covered his head anyway. Sounds like there may be a documentary that may air about it? It would be nice to have an authenticated death photo discovered, can’t wait to see it.

[cassandra jane]

Sounds questionable at best, given the emphasis not on his hair but his eyes. Shaving his hair off wouldn’t hide his striking eyes. Also Garrett bring ultra nervous about people digging the body up - and then adding in, I think from Sederwall’s book, the suggestion that that forensic scientist lady discovered nothing at all in the coffin. I’ll believe it if the documentary can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Otherwise it’ll take a DeLorean or some other time travel machine so we can all go back.

[chivato88]

Thanks for the great post, I dont believe it one bit, why are they coming out now with the picture??

[cassandra jane]

I read the comments on that Facebook post and it’s just a bit laughable. They mentioned Brushy not remembering anyone’s name at his “trial” (ie that sham media ambush) but failed to mention the stroke he had during it. They also admit themselves that it’s not terribly reliable or good quality but claim that computer software can clear it up to reveal a “Charlie Brown head/silhouette”. Their attitude towards one commenter who countered their weak attempts at “proof”, I quote:

“ <—this guy: agree to disagree…but here’s why I’m right.

I’m surprised that with all that “reading and research” you do your writing skills never improved.

Have a great day.”

For such allegedly irrefutable proof, they sure are childish about it. Very old guard attitude. A death photo only proves someone died. Something with so little clear quality or distinguishable features, going on the comment thread isn’t proof of the victim’s identity. Neither is their insistence on research proving Billy was born in New York. DNA proof would be.

[DanJohno]

Im guessing the photo and documentary will be released a few days before Young Guns 3 is released. A well timed counter attack by the hierarchy

[RonBk]

They dont have any death photo. They will only say "look, we have evidence there was a death photo made, but unfortunately its been lost"

[cassandra jane]

Having thought about it again just this second, wouldn’t Billy have been too smart to shave his head? Surely shaving your head would make you stick out even more among the crowd.

[Wayne Land]

I certainly don't believe the shaved head part. The Silver City newspaper reported the dead man had dark skin and a beard, like a Mexican. Don't you think if his head had been shaved, they would have mentioned that as well? From what we can see of the picture on the wall, it does appear there "might be" a face. One can make out what might be eyes and a mouth but just because you can't see the outline of the hair doesn't mean there isn't any. As far as clearing up the photo enough to compare the face to Billy's, all I can say is good luck with that but don't hold your breath. Only if they have the original photo to work from is there any chance of bringing out any more detail and I'm not sure the original even exists anymore.

[kerry]

Aug 21, 2021 9:28:16 GMT -5 Wayne Land said:

I certainly don't believe the shaved head part. The Silver City newspaper reported the dead man had dark skin and a beard, like a Mexican. Don't you think if his head had been shaved, they would have mentioned that as well? From what we can see of the picture on the wall, it does appear there "might be" a face. One can make out what might be eyes and a mouth but just because you can't see the outline of the hair doesn't mean there isn't any. As far as clearing up the photo enough to compare the face to Billy's, all I can say is good luck with that but don't hold your breath. Only if they have the original photo to work from is there any chance of bringing out any more detail and I'm not sure the original even exists anymore.

Both Poe and Mckinney had no idea what BTK looked like ...both saw the body minutes after it was shot -neither mentioned prominent front teeth being seen ....subsequently nor did anyone who knew BTK and who claimed to view the body.This absence of a dental feature so significant -Brushy had the teeth removed to avoid detection....

[kerry]

It was not uncommon for gunmen whether reputable or not -to be buried with their guns...plenty of photos to this account and also thanks to Dylan - a song....
No one felt it fitting to bury BTK or Jesse James with their guns -was it because they wouldn't give them up as
they still needed them ?

[kerry]

Aug 21, 2021 23:00:27 GMT -5 kerry said:

It was not uncommon for gunmen whether reputable or not -to be buried with their guns...plenty of photos to this account and also thanks to Dylan - a song....
No one felt it fitting to bury BTK or Jesse James with their guns -was it because they wouldn't give them up as
they still needed them ?

Iam sure - but for the circumstances - Bob Olinger would have liked to be buried with his favorite shotgun...in remote communities it was sometimes the thing to do to put the gun of a suicide on top of the grave - obviously they weren't that sentimental in Lincoln NM as it could be said Bob's demise was suicidal ( the gun was broken anyway) the theory was that in small remote communities - the gun became untouchably cursed...I've seen such a grave that after 70 years - all that remained was segments of the barrel( of a double- barrelled shot gun) and its lockwork....but it remained undisturbed as its owner but for fire being put through the forgotten cemetery to prevent it from becoming totally overgrown.

[MissyS]

I was wondering has there been anymore update on the death photo? I noticed in the pic of the room on top right it looks to me like a rifle leaning against a wall?  

[billybarlowofficial]

Considering I've not heard True West magazine mention this at all, and it's not been really mentioned elsewhere online, I'm not sure I buy into the story considering for 100+ years the "Billy died in 1881" camp themselves argued that the nearest photographer was 2-3 days away on horseback, and all reports seem to indicate that The Kid was buried early in the morning after the shooting took place. Unless we are to be told he was dug up and his picture taken at a later date.

From their own words and arguments over time, forensic photo analysis is hardly scientific proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So to use it to suit their own agenda, is rather hysterical. Even AI technology in 2023 has a range of being 30-60% accurate. One picture, of a lifeless person, without multiple angles or multiple other photographs to compare makes the task of identification all the more difficult.

As for the hair removal story, it might be true, but then again it kind of flies in the face of the orchard story where Garrett recognizes The Kid. So that'd imply he didn't change his appearance at all. And if he did, he suddenly did it behind closed doors for no reason at all when before he didnt.

Furthermore, its summertime in Mexico. Are you really going to walk around with no hair on your head? It'd be madness to do so. It makes no real sense. Growing your hair out longer, or even growing a beard, would make more sense. I can't rule out The Kid doing it but it seems unlikely to much me.

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all