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Post by chivato88 on Aug 12, 2021 17:59:38 GMT -5
September 16th 1896 T.B Catron wrote a letter to President Grover Cleveland wanting the removal of Gov. Thornton and recommanding John W Poe, now how weird is that. Why did he wanted Poe to be Gov? Was he easy to manipulate? He seemed to be a respecful lawman, why would he associate himself with such corrupt politician? I would not be suprise for Garrett to do it, but Poe it suprised me...
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Post by kerry on Aug 13, 2021 14:28:30 GMT -5
September 16th 1896 T.B Catron wrote a letter to President Grover Cleveland wanting the removal of Gov. Thornton and recommanding John W Poe, now how weird is that. Why did he wanted Poe to be Gov? Was he easy to manipulate? He seemed to be a respecful lawman, why would he associate himself with such corrupt politician? I would not be suprise for Garrett to do it, but Poe it suprised me... [b r] John Poe's success as a Roswell businessman/banker was such that powerful forces must have been at large that could only have been those that filled the immense vaccum left by John Chisum -it could only be his old adversary the Santa Fe Ring or its proxy/client who brought his holdings not long after the LCW and a few years before his death....? |
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Post by kerry on Aug 13, 2021 16:39:26 GMT -5
John Poe was loyal trustworthy honest and highly repected -very valuable traits for a leading citizen -even for the Santa Fe Ring whereas Jimmy Dolan and Pat Garrett struggled in all these departments...
In fact - it may have been the Santa Fe Ring foreclosing on Jimmy that caused him to go rogue -taking out Tunstall and causing the LCW out of sheer desparation and maliciousness..
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Post by kerry on Aug 13, 2021 22:31:41 GMT -5
John Poe was loyal trustworthy honest and highly repected -very valuable traits for a leading citizen -even for the Santa Fe Ring whereas Jimmy Dolan and Pat Garrett struggled in all these departments... In fact - it may have been the Santa Fe Ring foreclosing on Jimmy that caused him to go rogue -taking out Tunstall and causing the LCW out of sheer desparation and maliciousness.. Santa Fe Ring weren't that interested in Licoln,county...they were still assimulating the Maxwell grant in Colfax county.They always had a covetous eye of the auwsome power of John Chisum in eastern New Mexico.The Murphy-Fritz-Dolan operation was only a hindrance..only Chisum had the volumes of cattle that counted... |
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Post by chivato88 on Aug 14, 2021 18:41:33 GMT -5
Speaking of the Colfax county war, do you have a book to recommend? Ive been looking and noticed that theres not too many out there.
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Post by kerry on Aug 14, 2021 19:23:07 GMT -5
Speaking of the Colfax county war, do you have a book to recommend? Ive been looking and noticed that theres not too many out there. I don't know of any books on CCW -only that it foreshadowed the LCW...sparked by the killing of a popular Reverend supporting the victims of the Santa Fe Ring...its really about Clay Allison who rose to every occasion in his own irresistable and indominable way -he even called his loose band of regulators -the Clofax County Ring !-as with most vigilante actions ...none knew or dared to know just which side of the Law Clay was on -his story is a good intro. at the least - to the CCW ... |
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Post by chivato88 on Aug 14, 2021 19:42:21 GMT -5
Speaking of the Colfax county war, do you have a book to recommend? Ive been looking and noticed that theres not too many out there. I don't know of any books on CCW -only that it foreshadowed the LCW...sparked by the killing of a popular Reverend supporting the victims of the Santa Fe Ring...its really about Clay Allison who rose to every occasion in his own irresistable and indominable way -he even called his loose band of regulators -the Clofax County Ring !-as with most vigilante actions ...none knew or dared to know just which side of the Law Clay was on -his story is a good intro. at the least - to the CCW ... There's one called "Clay Allison and the Colfax county war", I guess I'll start with this one, I have not seen other books about it... Thanks Kerry |
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Post by Elwood on Aug 14, 2021 20:12:50 GMT -5
I don't know of any books on CCW -only that it foreshadowed the LCW...sparked by the killing of a popular Reverend supporting the victims of the Santa Fe Ring...its really about Clay Allison who rose to every occasion in his own irresistable and indominable way -he even called his loose band of regulators -the Clofax County Ring !-as with most vigilante actions ...none knew or dared to know just which side of the Law Clay was on -his story is a good intro. at the least - to the CCW ... There's one called "Clay Allison and the Colfax county war", I guess I'll start with this one, I have not seen other books about it... Thanks Kerry Here are a few books about the Colfax County War: www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_28%3Acolfax+county+war&s=daterank&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x=38&Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y=10&unfiltered=1&ref=sr_adv_b |
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Post by kerry on Aug 15, 2021 13:32:08 GMT -5
CCW was caused by the purchase of the vast Maxwell Land Grant - without vacant possession...Hispanic communities with their sheep Miners squatters American settlers with their cattle as well as local Natives -all needed removal by ruthless abuse of the Law.The old Mexican Land Grants were eagerly targeted by the rich and powerful - and Maxwell's was quickily sold for twice that paid to Lucien which was in itself a staggering and unimaginable amount of money for the time...no such grand scale of graft was obtainable anywhere else in the new Territories...CCW was said to have lasted longer and killed many more than the LCW.
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