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Post by bloodybeaver on Jul 24, 2021 5:50:01 GMT -5
Hey ya'll. I've read a lot stating that Brushy Bill Roberts had several bullet scars as well as knife scars that line up with wounds received by Billy the Kid. Can someone point me to the source of this claim? Is it in Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid? And do we know if there were any pictures taken of said wounds?
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Post by leeb on Jul 24, 2021 11:18:21 GMT -5
Hey ya'll. I've read a lot stating that Brushy Bill Roberts had several bullet scars as well as knife scars that line up with wounds received by Billy the Kid. Can someone point me to the source of this claim? Is it in Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid? And do we know if there were any pictures taken of said wounds? There isn't any source. There is no record of any scars that BTK had therefore there's nothing to compare old brushy's to. Billy recieved one known wound in the left thigh retrieving his rifle. |
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Post by devorerd on Jul 24, 2021 13:18:06 GMT -5
Hey ya'll. I've read a lot stating that Brushy Bill Roberts had several bullet scars as well as knife scars that line up with wounds received by Billy the Kid. Can someone point me to the source of this claim? Is it in Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid? And do we know if there were any pictures taken of said wounds? There isn't any source. There is no record of any scars that BTK had therefore there's nothing to compare old brushy's to. Billy recieved one known wound in the left thigh retrieving his rifle. Although, Brushy's showed Morrison several scars that William empirically verified. |
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Post by leeb on Jul 24, 2021 13:34:39 GMT -5
There isn't any source. There is no record of any scars that BTK had therefore there's nothing to compare old brushy's to. Billy recieved one known wound in the left thigh retrieving his rifle. Although, Brushy's showed Morrison several scars that William empirically verified. He could have showed him a million scars. Verified with what? You tell me where the scars were situated and tell me where Morrison was an expert to clarify this?? |
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Post by Wayne Land on Jul 24, 2021 13:59:15 GMT -5
I agree with Leeb, (believe it or not). I don't think we really know exactly how many scars Billy had and where they were located. As far as Brushy's scars matching with Billy's it's really more a case of Brushy having scars that matched with the story he told Morrison. If you do believe Brushy had 20+ scars from knife and bullet wounds (the funeral home director stated he did) then the real question is where did all those scars come from. The real Oliver P. Roberts would not have had all that. But Billy The Kid might have, assuming some of the scars happened "after" 1881.
It is important to know whether Brushy actually had all those scars and where they were exactly. Unfortunately, Morrison didn't make any kind of photographic or written record of the exact location of scars. The scar on Brushy's head "is" visible in the pictures taken at the courthouse hearing with Mabry. But the scar on his cheek from the bullet wound he said he got in Ft. Sumner is not visible. While the son of the drug store owner in Hico told me personally that his Dad had seen numerous scars on Brushy.
Bottom line, I don't think the presence or absence of scars on Brushy is strong evidence as to the voracity of his claim of being BTK but I do see it as strong evidence he was "not" Oliver P. Roberts born in 1879.
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Post by kerry on Jul 25, 2021 8:02:21 GMT -5
Brushy at 90 would have more scars than Brushy at 20 but the one that came closest to killing him would always get a mention and Morrison got to feel the bullet track in Brushy's jaw -he did'nt have a hole through his shoulder blade like John Miller...Brushy had his own left field version of both the escape from Lincoln and the shooting at Maxwell's which contradict long accepted accounts of these events..yet can't be dismissed - BTK was alone with Bell
but was'nt alone on the Maxwell Porch...
Mckinney was outside the picket fence beside the porch with a rifle and later in life claimed to have shot BTK -also much later in life Silva was reported as saying variously -that BTK was shot by a rifle from concealment on the porch.
Brushy specifically mentioned being armed with two pistols which is unusual but relevant as Pat Garrett himself claimed only two . 44 colts and gunbelts were missing after the escape from Lincoln jail that occurred only two months before the Maxwell shooting...Brushy still had the two guns.
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Post by bloodybeaver on Jul 25, 2021 11:11:00 GMT -5
Hey ya'll. I've read a lot stating that Brushy Bill Roberts had several bullet scars as well as knife scars that line up with wounds received by Billy the Kid. Can someone point me to the source of this claim? Is it in Morrison's book Alias Billy the Kid? And do we know if there were any pictures taken of said wounds? There isn't any source. There is no record of any scars that BTK had therefore there's nothing to compare old brushy's to. Billy recieved one known wound in the left thigh retrieving his rifle. Thank you for your feedback. What fight did he receive this would during? |
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Post by devorerd on Jul 25, 2021 11:14:02 GMT -5
Although, Brushy's showed Morrison several scars that William empirically verified. He could have showed him a million scars. Verified with what? You tell me where the scars were situated and tell me where Morrison was an expert to clarify this?? Verified with his eyes. The point is how do you "make up" scars, whether they happened when Brushy was 10 or 40? Do they help or hurt his case for being the actual BTK, nope, as we have previously discussed, one does not go around touting their scars, hence just because there isn't a record or a physicians's physical document we shouldn't infer that they didn't exist. IMO, for a guy that naysayers say was a farmer, there's an awful lot of coincidences that make that a far less probability than he was the actual Kid. Cheers! |
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