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Post by susan on Jul 5, 2017 17:46:54 GMT -5
Does anyone have any information on what happened to Jesse Evans after he escaped from Huntsville Prison, May 23, 1882? In reading the message board and other articles it seems that most people think that is was Billy Campbell who was claiming his brother's property with help from Mr. Morrison instead of Jesse Evans. If so, what could have happened to Jesse Evans? You would think after all this time that some information would have turned up about him. I have searched and searched on Ancestry and cannot find anything. Also, I did find a picture on the Internet of Jesse and Billy the Kid when Billy was very young. Has anyone else seen this?
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 6, 2017 22:41:56 GMT -5
I am not sure if William Campbell was Jesse Evans or not but I do believe Joe Hines was claiming to be Jesse Evans because Morrison and Hines obtained a document from Texas Dept. Of Corrections stating when Jesse Evans was released from Prison. It was addressed to "Joe Hines aka Jesse Evans" I can get document number and dates if you want them.
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Post by t on Jul 6, 2017 22:47:24 GMT -5
Thain,
Posting an image of the referenced document received from the Texas Department of Cporrectios would be most helpful.
Thanks
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 12:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 12:44:01 GMT -5
I have never seen the document in person nor tried to. This is an email I received from Brett Hall when I was going under the alias Jim Roberts. (Actually just using my stepdads email. I didn't have my own yet.)
P.s. I do not see where it was reproduced in Hefner's Trial of Billy the Kid, and certainly not a photo copy but if anyone has a dust jacket for that book, I need it.
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Post by t on Jul 7, 2017 15:24:45 GMT -5
Not sure such a document exists if this is correct:
"Jesse Evans was found guilty of second-degree murder and sentenced to 10 years in the state prison at Huntsville Penitentiary. Arriving at Huntsville on December 1, 1880, Evans entered as prisoner #9078. Almost 18 months later, on May 23, 1882, Evans went over the wall and disappeared from history."
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 16:48:23 GMT -5
I doubt that is correct as I never seen anyone claim to provide a document that supports it or claim to have seen one. Every Billy the Kid related story has about four different versions. I usually try to verify or debunk everything I come across to a certain extent with an unbiased objective attitude. I never followed up on the Texas Corrections thing but it's just one of those things I didn't think I needed to. I know that don't sound fair. But I have no doubt he was released and the story of escaping over a wall is false. But I'll step back from this and let somebody else prove it one way or another if they feel motivated. I'm not sure how new or old you are at Billy the Kid history but most of it isn't true. We are only now since the, I don't know, 'recenter years' getting closer to the truth. And still a lot of it is wrong. If you could tell me your source (author, book, etc.) I might look in to it since it does have the allegedly correct file number with a different ending tacked on. But if it's something off of the internet I'm not interested. (However this is an internet site and it's the best site EVER!)
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Post by susan on Jul 7, 2017 19:06:49 GMT -5
Thank you. I find it very interesting that he told Morrison that Billy The Kid was still alive. I guess my question is, if that is so then they must have stayed in contact. If Jesse Evans was born in 1853 or so, he would have been 95 in 1948. I just wondered if he married, had children and where he was buried. Also, I wondered where he and Billy The Kid first met. I read that Jesse was arrested in Elk City, Kansas with his parents for passing counterfeit money. One of my other questions is that was not there some counterfeiting done in New Mexico during the time of the Lincoln County War?
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 19:24:50 GMT -5
He was about the same age as Billy. go to Familysearch.com or somewhere like, it's free and you should be able to find Joe Hines living in Florida in 1930 and 1940, born in Missouri, and listed as boarder.
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Post by susan on Jul 7, 2017 20:19:40 GMT -5
Thank you again. I could not find the information on Joe Hines in Florida. Did Jesse kill Tunstall? If so, why did Billy not kill him? Were Billy and Jesse friends? There is so much misinformation it is difficult to sort it all out? Do you think if Pat Garrett had handled the coroner's report differently there would not be all this mystery? Also, did Billy have a girl friend in the area? Would that be the reason he did not leave the area? It makes no sense that he would still even be in New Mexico.
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 20:30:16 GMT -5
Nobody knows who his main girl was at the time. Him and Jesse were on again off again friends in my opinion. I don't know that Jesse for sure killed Tunstall. Many different versions. What did Brushy say? Did you try Joseph Hines. It was all there last time I checked a couple months ago. I might look in a bit.
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 7, 2017 20:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by susan on Jul 8, 2017 11:23:59 GMT -5
Thank you for posting the information on Jesse Evans (Joe Hines) in Florida. That does answer one of my questions that he was married. I do still wonder if he had children. Also, thank you for answering my question that Jesse and Billy The Kid were the same age. There again, I read other misinformation that Jesse was much older than Billy. So many of the books written are and or were strictly about making money and just historical fiction.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Jul 8, 2017 13:13:28 GMT -5
So it’s more than a little ironic that when Jesse Evans landed in the pit jail in Fort Davis, Texas, he wrote a letter to the Kid (of all people), asking him to come save him. The letter suggests a stronger bond than most would have expected.
So why didn’t the Kid help out Jesse? The answer is found in Ranger C.L. Nevill’s report of August 26, 1880:
The prisoners are getting restless. I have a letter they wrote to a friend of Evans in New Mexico calling himself Billy Antrum to cause their rescue, and to use the words he was “in a damned tight place only 14 Rangers here any time, ten on scout and only four in camp now,” and that Antrum and a few men could take them out very easy and if he could not do it now to meet him [Evans] on the road to Huntsville [prison] as he was certain to go. I understand this man Antrum is a fugitive from somewhere and a noted desperado. If he comes down and I expect he will, I will enlist him for a while and put him in the same mess with Evans & Co.
The authorities intercepted that letter, and even though the Ranger suspected another would get out to Billy, no record of such exists. It is likely Jesse had no idea his letter was intercepted, and when the Kid didn’t come, he made other plans.
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Post by susan on Jul 8, 2017 17:00:44 GMT -5
I wonder if Jesse ever found out that the letter did not arrive. I have yet another question and I hope it is not considered too dumb. I have read that Billy had a sister named Bridget and it is also well known he had a brother named Joe or Joseph. In looking through Ancestry.com, I found listed a family in St. Louis, Missouri in 1870 with family members: Pt McCarty, Kate McCarty, Bridget McCarty, Bill McCarty, Joe McCarty, Tom McCarty, and Robert McCarty. I know that Billy The Kid was supposedly born in New York but is that definite or could they have lived in Missouri at some point? Also, I have always found it unusual that his mother only had 2 children. Perhaps there were more and something happened. If Billy did happen to be in Missouri, could he have met Jesse Evans there long before the Lincoln County War?
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