Alleged billy the kid picture

[clydec]

Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone has seen this alleged picture of Billy the kid and what are your thoughts on it!  I personally don't think it's him, but maybe it is!  

[MissyS]

Hi Clyde, yes I have seen this photo and read about it on another board or site awhile back, and I believe it may have good promenance?, it was one of many photos that were alleged to be part of Sallie Chisum's photo album, many of the photos from that album were many regulators, Sallie Chisum herself and her family, many do match closely with known photos of them and I think the finder has proven them or some genuine by having them id'd by Chisum's descendants, and tracing the sell of the photos back to Sallie's decendant that sold them, I believe the story was they came from Sallie, to her favorite niece, to her son, to his daughter, and she sold them at an estate sale and an antique shop dealer bought them and then to the current owner, there is another photo the same owner believes may be him as well that was in the lot, the photos have no names identifying them, but there may be real proof the photos as having belonged to Sallie. This photo does look like he's trying to cover his teeth?, I don't know if it has ever been compared with the known tintype or not but is an interesting photo, along with the rest in the lot.

[clydec]

I did a quick comparison to some of the other photos I have downloaded of the kid that I think are genuine(4 to be exact) and some of brushy bill when he was younger and does not match any of them.

[clydec]

Here are the 4 that I think are him. One for sure is the famous tintype and 3 others.

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[clydec]

I also think the new croquet photo is him as well.

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[mkyzzzret]

I looked at the picture above, with the alleged "Billy" standing next to a seated person with his legs crossed. Then I looked at the pictures from the alleged "Sallie Chism" collection - and I wondered if the fellow seated could be Richard "Dick" Brewer, the guy who supposedly hired Billy. I think there is a facial resemblance, and it might sort of explain why he is seated and Billy is standing next to him. It would stand to reason that the "boss" would be in the chair.

[MissyS]

The top photo the name looks very much like another photo of him that also had his name on the bottom as well, do you know the history of that photo? Where it was found? The eyes look dark in that photo but the hair, mouth, hat look like Billy's. The photo of the two with the supposed Billy sitting well looking at the background it looks like a stage prop or a theatrical prop for a play performance, it looks that way to me because of the way the window looks cut out and the walls look propped up, could Billy had taken part in a play of some sort? It's a stretch but Brushy did say he had and been in Wild West shows, I always assumed he did roping and riding but he could have done other stuff as well? I don't know the age he is there? If it's him that is? How old do you think he could be in that photo? And how old was Brushy when he was with the Wild West shows?

[clydec]

the picture with two people in it was taken in globe Arizona, not sure what year. The fellow standing is thought to be Billy and the other fellow sitting is his brother Joe.

[scoopdogg1867]

Nov 16, 2015 23:19:15 GMT -5 clydec said:

Here are the 4 that I think are him. One for sure is the famous tintype and 3 others.

The top one from the book cover, was exposed as not Billy, i dont think it can be Billy, his eyes are brown and also his hair. Isn't the middle and bottom two supposed to be Jesse Evans? I've  enclosed some pics of a morph comparison of the two persons and 2 Jesse Evans picture.

[scoopdogg1867]

Nov 16, 2015 20:06:13 GMT -5 MissyS said:

Hi Clyde, yes I have seen this photo and read about it on another board or site awhile back, and I believe it may have good promenance?, it was one of many photos that were alleged to be part of Sallie Chisum's photo album, many of the photos from that album were many regulators, Sallie Chisum herself and her family, many do match closely with known photos of them and I think the finder has proven them or some genuine by having them id'd by Chisum's descendants, and tracing the sell of the photos back to Sallie's decendant that sold them, I believe the story was they came from Sallie, to her favorite niece, to her son, to his daughter, and she sold them at an estate sale and an antique shop dealer bought them and then to the current owner, there is another photo the same owner believes may be him as well that was in the lot, the photos have no names identifying them, but there may be real proof the photos as having belonged to Sallie. This photo does look like he's trying to cover his teeth?, I don't know if it has ever been compared with the known tintype or not but is an interesting photo, along with the rest in the lot.

Yeah it belongs to Steve Mcarty, I've not made my mind up on it yet, but the little provenance on it, does warrant further investigation.

[clydec]

The bottom pic of the 4 cowboys is supposed to show the 2 Jones brothers(back left and front right). Not sure of the bottom left, but the back right is said to be Billy the kid. This was confirmed years late by one of the Jones boys younger brother. Brushy bill also made mention of this photo when Morrison interviewed him before he died!

[clydec]

Did a quick side by side comparison and this photo of Jesse Evans looks alot like this alleged photo of Billy! Were they similar in there appearances?

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[clydec]

I don't think this photo is Billy either, but some people seem to think so. What do you folks think, yea or nay?

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[MissyS]

Something is weird about that picture of the lady and Jesse Evans, she looks almost identical to some young Susan McSween photos?? That photo of Jesse dont look anything like the other photos claiming to be him either?