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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 18:15:52 GMT -5
Well I have an important question. How do we know it’s faked? How come the history channels website uses it if it’s fake? What evidence makes clear that it’s fake? We know simply because there is no record of any such wanted poster ever being produced before 1881. Gov. Lew Wallace did post a "reward notice" in the Las Vegas Gazette but it did not contain a photo and the reward was for $500 not $5000. There is no record of any $5000 reward ever being offered. And again, it can't be an authentic wanted poster because the man in the photo included is not a match with the real photo of Billy. These are valid points but I’d like to point out that the composite could be a real composite of the kid that was just slapped on a wanted poster to give it a better zing to it. I think it’s a real composite of the kid but on a fake poster. I must point out though is that your comparison of the kid with the composite is flawed. Firstly their faces are pointing in different directions so you couldn’t be sure of that, secondly it’s a composite and back then making a composite of a person from memory isn’t easy so it wouldn’t be the exact same to a T. So if the comparison doesn’t match up it doesn’t mean it’s not him.
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 21:25:11 GMT -5
What exactly do you mean by "composite"? What do you mean by "making a composite of a person from memory"? Are you saying it's some kind of drawing or something? To me, the term "composite" means it was made by combining multiple photos together. Assuming that is what you mean, I don't see how you can describe that photo as a composite.
Either way, the facial dimensions do not match up. The different angle of his head does not make his eyebrows look higher than they really are. It doesn't make his nose appear shorter and more bulbous than Billy's. I scale the photos to the size by scaling them until the pupils of the eyes are the same distance apart because that distance does not change over time. When a photo is scaled so that the pupils are the same distance then other features should line up much better than with this photo. That photo in question is "not" Billy The Kid. It's just not him. Sorry!
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 8, 2021 12:19:50 GMT -5
What exactly do you mean by "composite"? What do you mean by "making a composite of a person from memory"? Are you saying it's some kind of drawing or something? To me, the term "composite" means it was made by combining multiple photos together. Assuming that is what you mean, I don't see how you can describe that photo as a composite. Either way, the facial dimensions do not match up. The different angle of his head does not make his eyebrows look higher than they really are. It doesn't make his nose appear shorter and more bulbous than Billy's. I scale the photos to the size by scaling them until the pupils of the eyes are the same distance apart because that distance does not change over time. When a photo is scaled so that the pupils are the same distance then other features should line up much better than with this photo. That photo in question is "not" Billy The Kid. It's just not him. Sorry! What I mean by composite is that it’s a drawing made by eye witness accounts made into a drawing in hopes that it could identify him.
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 8, 2021 20:45:02 GMT -5
Ok, so you believe it is drawing. Do you have any way to know who drew the picture and is there any provinance? Where did you find this picture and who said it was a drawing and not a photo. If you check further up in the thread here I posted a picture with Billy's face traced and overlaid. That looked very much like the picture you're saying is drawn and it also looks very much like a deteriorated "Photo". Maybe your source drew the picture by looking at that photo? Either way, I absolutely do not believe that is a photo of Billy The Kid.
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 8, 2021 20:58:35 GMT -5
Ok, so you believe it is drawing. Do you have any way to know who drew the picture and is there any provinance? Where did you find this picture and who said it was a drawing and not a photo. If you check further up in the thread here I posted a picture with Billy's face traced and overlaid. That looked very much like the picture you're saying is drawn and it also looks very much like a deteriorated "Photo". Maybe your source drew the picture by looking at that photo? Either way, I absolutely do not believe that is a photo of Billy The Kid. www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-billy-the-kidand I tell you, it is definitely not a photograph it’s a composite. Reason being is that no human had that big facial features as well as being the blank shadows. And I told you, theirs no use in the comparison because their facing in different directions and two it wouldn’t be accurate if it’s a composite made by accounts
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 8, 2021 21:01:53 GMT -5
Plus a drawing isn’t always accurate in dimensions
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