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Post by historysleuth on Mar 6, 2021 17:54:27 GMT -5
The composite you now see was made by me. The photos I used were the one from his wanted poster composite and I used some softwares to morph it with a photo of the kid to get another look at the kid, an authentic look of how he looked in everyday life. I put my credits on their since I made this, but the purpose I made this composite, well a few reasons. The first big reason is for everyone on this board to use, to use it for facial comparisons and presentations but only if you keep my credit in the photo, that’s the only catch. The other reason was because the women back then said he was a very very handsome man and that his photo did him unjust. That is very true because it’s the worst 2.3 million dollar photo I’ve ever seen. Plus combined together you see the kid with a natural expression and have a better idea of how he looked. Makes things more personal in a way because it brings it back to life like you could walk past him in a street. I do feel very proud of the composite I made and I must be honest I don’t do much I’m proud of so this makes this quite special to me personally and I might do more touch ups on it in the future.
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 11:40:43 GMT -5
You said "The photos I used were the one from his wanted poster composite and I used some softwares to morph it with a photo of the kid" By "wanted poster", I assume you mean the "tintype photo". As for the other photo you used, I'm pretty certain that one is not Billy. Just sayin. Great idea though, if there were more than one verified photo to work with. Unfortunately there isn't. Even the croquet picture, which I believe is Billy, has not really been verified beyond the doubt.
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 12:12:05 GMT -5
I went ahead and made this to show you why I believe the other photo you used is definitely "not" BTK. the red lines you see on the photo are a tracing of the famous tintype photo of Billy. You'll notice this fellow's eyebrows are much higher, his nose is shorter and more bulbous and his face is too thin. Additionally, I think this fellow is thinning on top with a receding hairline, which indicates he is older than Billy allegedly was when he died. (Historically speaking)
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:13:51 GMT -5
I used this composite from his wanted poster
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:18:43 GMT -5
I went ahead and made this to show you why I believe the other photo you used is definitely "not" BTK. the red lines you see on the photo are a tracing of the famous tintype photo of Billy. You'll notice this fellow's eyebrows are much higher, his nose is shorter and more bulbous and his face is too thin. Additionally, I think this fellow is thinning on top with a receding hairline, which indicates he is older than Billy allegedly was when he died. (Historically speaking) View AttachmentThe thing is is that this was a composite made of him so it wouldn’t be the most accurate Attachments:
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 12:18:54 GMT -5
Yes, that's the same one I compared my tracing to. I don't think there is any chance that is a photo of BTK. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "composite". But if for whatever reason it is "not accurate", then the results you get by morphing it with the tintype won't be accurate either. Right?
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 12:22:54 GMT -5
Also, please be aware that wanted poster was made in modern times. It is not a real wanted poster. There's a ton of fake BTK stuff out there. You'll be wise to be careful what you accept as the real deal. Nonetheless, I applaud your effort and if what you tried to do was possible it would be very helpful. I just don't think it's possible with the one verified photo, the tintype, with the very distorted "croquet" picture being the only other "probable" photo from the LCW days. Of course if you believe as I do, we have plenty of pictures of Billy looked like at various ages. We have lots of photos of him after 1881 when he was going by the moniker "Brushy Bill".
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:25:38 GMT -5
Wait is that what happened? Well I suppose it makes sense, thank you Wayne for informing me. Well I think it’s safe to say I made it Billy right?
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 12:33:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I would not put it that way. By morphing the tintype with a photo that is not Billy, then you make the tintype less like the real Billy.
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:44:09 GMT -5
Very true, but I mainly made it for my illustrations of moment in his life
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 12:46:50 GMT -5
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:49:25 GMT -5
Well I hope you liked my composite, I’m planning on using it for illustrations. Maybe you’d like to see it?
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 7, 2021 12:58:14 GMT -5
Well I have an important question. How do we know it’s faked? How come the history channels website uses it if it’s fake? What evidence makes clear that it’s fake?
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Post by RonBk on Mar 7, 2021 15:34:38 GMT -5
Thats just so cool! The one thing that bothers me just a tiny bit is that they kept the eye thats half closed permanently in that fashion. Other than that, super cool animation. This feels like time travel. Also, the similairity with Brushy becomes even more intense. Hands down to A.I.
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 7, 2021 16:24:17 GMT -5
Well I have an important question. How do we know it’s faked? How come the history channels website uses it if it’s fake? What evidence makes clear that it’s fake? We know simply because there is no record of any such wanted poster ever being produced before 1881. Gov. Lew Wallace did post a "reward notice" in the Las Vegas Gazette but it did not contain a photo and the reward was for $500 not $5000. There is no record of any $5000 reward ever being offered. And again, it can't be an authentic wanted poster because the man in the photo included is not a match with the real photo of Billy.
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