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Post by Elwood on Aug 14, 2020 20:43:08 GMT -5
After all these years, someone has created a high res image of Billy's tintype that is astounding in it's clarity and detail. I don't know who did it or how they created it so I apologize for not providing the appropriate credit. But I could not resist sharing it here when I saw a glaring similarity with one of Brushy's photos. The photo of Brushy was taken at the meeting with Governor Mabry. As you probably are aware, photos sometimes show more facial blemishes or less depending on lighting and the camera's abilities, etc. I don't see any clear evidence of this on any of the other Brushy photos though there are other photos where you can "maybe" see this. If I'm correct, the BTK tintype shows a scar of some kind on the bridge of the nose. This photo of Brushy shows a scar in the exact same spot. I leave it to the viewer to decide what this means or if it is accurate. True Face of Billy the Kid - by Frank Parrish pg 29 to 34 This link is a pdf issue of: Southern Mexico Historical Review January 2020
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Post by devorerd on Jan 28, 2021 16:46:37 GMT -5
Interesting article, I appreciate they added the photo analysis as well. Thank you for sharing
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Post by also history sleuth on Mar 3, 2021 10:56:03 GMT -5
After all these years, someone has created a high res image of Billy's tintype that is astounding in it's clarity and detail. I don't know who did it or how they created it so I apologize for not providing the appropriate credit. But I could not resist sharing it here when I saw a glaring similarity with one of Brushy's photos. The photo of Brushy was taken at the meeting with Governor Mabry. As you probably are aware, photos sometimes show more facial blemishes or less depending on lighting and the camera's abilities, etc. I don't see any clear evidence of this on any of the other Brushy photos though there are other photos where you can "maybe" see this. If I'm correct, the BTK tintype shows a scar of some kind on the bridge of the nose. This photo of Brushy shows a scar in the exact same spot. I leave it to the viewer to decide what this means or if it is accurate. Here's the two photos: View Attachmentsorry but he authentic photo your using to compare to Brushy is unreliable. you see that photo of the kid was enhanced from a very low res photo of the kid and a higher res photo of the kid should be used. good thing for you is that higher res photos of the kid have been enhanced and do have that line on the same spot of the nose. I'm just saying be careful what photos you use for comparisons
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 3, 2021 12:14:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I have done facial comparisons of Billy and Brushy many, many times using many versions of the tintype. I did this one concerning the nose simply because of the mark on the nose, not for any other reasons. I don't propose to know why that mark shows up on some photos and not others. The AI enhanced photo of Billy that shows the mark is one of several such enhanced photos that all show the mark. Yet I don't see it on the unenhanced tintype. It is very odd and maybe someone with more expertise on how these AI efforts work could explain the process. Would a mark like that show up on more than one AI effort if there really was no such mark on the original face? Possibly. I have no idea. I just thought it startled me enough I should share it on the board.
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Post by tboor74 on Mar 3, 2021 13:29:26 GMT -5
After all these years, someone has created a high res image of Billy's tintype that is astounding in it's clarity and detail. I don't know who did it or how they created it so I apologize for not providing the appropriate credit. But I could not resist sharing it here when I saw a glaring similarity with one of Brushy's photos. The photo of Brushy was taken at the meeting with Governor Mabry. As you probably are aware, photos sometimes show more facial blemishes or less depending on lighting and the camera's abilities, etc. I don't see any clear evidence of this on any of the other Brushy photos though there are other photos where you can "maybe" see this. If I'm correct, the BTK tintype shows a scar of some kind on the bridge of the nose. This photo of Brushy shows a scar in the exact same spot. I leave it to the viewer to decide what this means or if it is accurate. Here's the two photos: View Attachmentsorry but he authentic photo your using to compare to Brushy is unreliable. you see that photo of the kid was enhanced from a very low res photo of the kid and a higher res photo of the kid should be used. good thing for you is that higher res photos of the kid have been enhanced and do have that line on the same spot of the nose. I'm just saying be careful what photos you use for comparisons There are only 2 verified pics aren't there? Neither of which is high res? You've lost me here.
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Post by RonBk on Dec 10, 2022 3:38:58 GMT -5
After all these years, someone has created a high res image of Billy's tintype that is astounding in it's clarity and detail. I don't know who did it or how they created it so I apologize for not providing the appropriate credit. But I could not resist sharing it here when I saw a glaring similarity with one of Brushy's photos. The photo of Brushy was taken at the meeting with Governor Mabry. As you probably are aware, photos sometimes show more facial blemishes or less depending on lighting and the camera's abilities, etc. I don't see any clear evidence of this on any of the other Brushy photos though there are other photos where you can "maybe" see this. If I'm correct, the BTK tintype shows a scar of some kind on the bridge of the nose. This photo of Brushy shows a scar in the exact same spot. I leave it to the viewer to decide what this means or if it is accurate. Here's the two photos: View AttachmentHere you can see the scar again:
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Post by Wayne Land on Dec 10, 2022 13:01:57 GMT -5
Thank you Ronnback! I'd never seen that particular photo but it is quite clear there is a line across his nose in the exact spot. You can also see the scar on hi forehead above his right eye. Thank you, thank you.
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Post by RonBk on Dec 11, 2022 1:48:54 GMT -5
The scar above the eye appears to extend pretty far up all the way over the forehead, continuing an inch or so above where his hairline used to be located. Anyone has any thoughts of how and when Brushy might have received this scar? The shootout in Fort Sumner perhaps?
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Post by chivato88 on Dec 11, 2022 8:44:07 GMT -5
The scar above the eye appears to extend pretty far up all the way over the forehead, continuing an inch or so above where his hairline used to be located. Anyone has any thoughts of how and when Brushy might have received this scar? The shootout in Fort Sumner perhaps? Wow Ron, good work! that's solid evidence.
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Post by MissyS on Dec 11, 2022 10:43:17 GMT -5
The scar above the eye appears to extend pretty far up all the way over the forehead, continuing an inch or so above where his hairline used to be located. Anyone has any thoughts of how and when Brushy might have received this scar? The shootout in Fort Sumner perhaps? Interesting There was a Dr Palmer in a newspaper article that told of treating Billy the Kid for a scalp wound. I will try and find a link to that article.
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Post by MissyS on Dec 11, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5
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Post by Wayne Land on Dec 12, 2022 10:56:49 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that article Missy. I'm pretty sure Brushy said he was hit by a bullet across his forehead during the escape from Fort Sumner.
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Post by texas truth teller on Dec 12, 2022 12:38:49 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that article Missy. I'm pretty sure Brushy said he was hit by a bullet across his forehead during the escape from Fort Sumner. p. 49 "I had emptied one of my .44's when another shot struck me across the top of my head about an inch and a half back of the forehead; and about two inches in length."
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Post by RonBk on Dec 12, 2022 13:23:43 GMT -5
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Post by texas truth teller on Dec 12, 2022 14:52:04 GMT -5
A copy of that photo was published in the Austin American-Statesman in January 1950. The Ancestry.com pension file includes an image of that photo.
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