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Post by whiskeyta on Sept 6, 2019 11:29:00 GMT -5
Hi everyone I am long time lurker of this forum and wanted to thank all the members for sharing their research, thoughts and opinions. I have seen it mentioned that BTK testified at the Dudley COI, LCW grand jury and also gave a deposition to Frank Angel but I have not seen much in the way of quotes or the actual testimony that he provided. Is there just not much there to discuss or just not much in the way of documentation.
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Post by nmjames on Sept 6, 2019 11:56:48 GMT -5
whiskeyta, There is a lot of information in the Dudley COI not only from Billy but others. There is a one set, two vol. book out but it may be hard to find now. I have them but don't quote much because I don't know much about copyright laws. I like them because you can read what Bill as well as others said about the LCW. As for documentation, there is more out there than most people know about but some of it you have to pay for and go to different research centers to obtain it. Again as for me, I don't post any of it for the same reason.
nmjames
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Post by whiskeyta on Sept 6, 2019 17:10:20 GMT -5
Oluckyman, thanks for the suggestion on the gale cooper book, I will have to get a copy of it. I checked and they didn’t have a kindle version so I will have to order.
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Post by whiskeyta on Sept 6, 2019 17:26:21 GMT -5
Nmjames, thanks for the info. It looks like there are some used copies still available at $75-100 for the set. Something I need to add to my wish list. It was something that I have seen mentioned in some of the books I have read but there wasn’t much detail as to what BTK actually said during the proceedings. Other than his letters to Lou Wallace and the few newspaper quotes, it just seemed like another way to hear what he had to say in his own words and give some additional insight into BTK the person.
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Post by nmjames on Sept 8, 2019 20:58:24 GMT -5
whiskeyta,
I know the lady who's dad did the research and she had the books published. The last time I visited with her, she only had one set left that she would sell. She told me at that time that she was not going to print any more. If you would like me to contact her to see if she still has any for sell, I will and see how much they are selling for. You can PM me let me know.
nmjames
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Post by nmjames on Sept 15, 2019 22:20:11 GMT -5
whiskeyta & oluckyman,
I was able to visit with my friend today and she has only one set left of the Dudley Court of Inquiry. I did ask her is she is going to put the book out in an electronic format and she is thinking about it. She has had several request for it. If you would like the set she has left, let me know by PM and I will get you in contact with her.
nmjames
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Post by mckinley412 on Oct 3, 2019 21:37:39 GMT -5
whiskeyta, if you want to hear Billy's own words then you simply need to buy the book Writings, Words, and Wits by Gale Cooper. It has everything Billy said in there. Although, it too is probably getting expensive but it would be the most bang for your buck, all the letters and everything he said during the inquiry and maybe his newspaper interviews too, idk.
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Post by chivato88 on May 14, 2021 19:14:43 GMT -5
Is it just me? Everytime I read a chapter about Dudley it bores me to death and want to quit reading, I also get the same feeling about Wallace.
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 21, 2022 10:45:11 GMT -5
Lew Wallace = coward, liar, incompetent, lazy,selfish... he had everything in hand to crush the Ring, a total failure as Gov
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Post by Paul O'Brien on Apr 1, 2022 12:03:41 GMT -5
Mrs Lew Wallace described him in a letter to her sister Joanna as 'a gentlemanly appearing fellow'.
He said three soldiers fired at him as he ran from the burning McSween home..p 185 vol 1 Beavers Pond Press 2003 edition
He admitted he was known as 'Kid' but not 'Billy Kid'.
Dudley's smart lawyer Henry Waldo called him 'a known criminal of the worst type'..p 552 et seq..
His closing argument p 536-611 are a must read.
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Post by cassandra jane on Apr 2, 2022 4:21:47 GMT -5
Mrs Lew Wallace described him in a letter to her sister Joanna as 'a gentlemanly appearing fellow'. He said three soldiers fired at him as he ran from the burning McSween home..p 185 vol 1 Beavers Pond Press 2003 edition He admitted he was known as 'Kid' but not 'Billy Kid'. Dudley's smart lawyer Henry Waldo called him 'a known criminal of the worst type'..p 552 et seq.. His closing argument p 536-611 are a must read. To be fair to Billy, there are far worse people to have existed both past and present so I think Henry Waldo wouldn’t have a leg to stand on if he thought to pick up a history book 😐 I’d be interested in the name of the actual book/article though. |
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Post by Paul O'Brien on Apr 2, 2022 9:50:15 GMT -5
It's Barron's reproduction of the proceedings of the Dudley Court of Inquiry..Billy also gives account of the setting of the McSween place on fire and his dramatic breakout...
There's a vast amount of info from the numerous witnesses summoned.
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Post by Paul O'Brien on Apr 2, 2022 9:58:35 GMT -5
David Easton's unbiased evidence is particularly good.
Incidentally he was at Blazers Mill during the Buckshot Roberts fight.
The Barron 2 vol edition is long out of print but might be accessible from a library. Check WorldCat...
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Post by Paul O'Brien on Apr 2, 2022 10:01:04 GMT -5
David Easton's unbiased evidence is particularly good.
Incidentally he was at Blazers Mill during the Buckshot Roberts fight.
The Barron 2 vol edition is long out of print but might be accessible from a library. Check WorldCat...
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Post by cassandra jane on Apr 2, 2022 10:03:32 GMT -5
David Easton's unbiased evidence is particularly good. Incidentally he was at Blazers Mill during the Buckshot Roberts fight. The Barron 2 vol edition is long out of print but might be accessible from a library. Check WorldCat... I checked AbeBooks and they’ve got it listed as rare for £314. £314 - if I were a millionaire maybe. I’ll also be checking out Archive.org because they tend to have loads of texts uploaded there for free reading. I’d ask my local library but I doubt they’d bite on a book that costs that much 😂 |
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