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Post by Wayne Land on Sept 5, 2018 11:02:19 GMT -5
It is said that Brushy Bill was very reluctant to go inside the courthouse in Lincoln and even shed tears before Morrison convinced him to go in. Why would an old man from Arkansas get so emotional about that place?
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Post by mckinley412 on Sept 5, 2018 20:37:51 GMT -5
Because he looked back on his past as that was what could have been and he had to kill a good man to change it.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Sept 5, 2018 23:27:30 GMT -5
"It is said that Brushy Bill was very reluctant to go inside the courthouse in Lincoln and even shed tears before Morrison convinced him to go in. Why would an old man from Arkansas get so emotional about that place?"
Maybe he was crying because he was afraid he couldn't remember the details of the courthouse described in "The Saga of Billy the Kid".
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Post by Wayne Land on Sept 6, 2018 1:24:00 GMT -5
Typical response from the naysayers. No legitimate answer so you make joke of it.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Sept 6, 2018 9:47:55 GMT -5
"Typical response from the naysayers."
Realist, not naysayer, is the accurate description.
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Post by Wayne Land on Sept 7, 2018 1:39:05 GMT -5
TTT,
Your comment was nothing more than sarcasm and was made because you had no realistic answer to the question. And you call that being a "realist"?
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Sept 7, 2018 14:07:12 GMT -5
Sarcastic? No. Realistic? Yes.
Brushy Bill was not Billy the Kid.
No credible evidence has been found that Henry McCarty was alive after 14 July 1881.
Oliver P Roberts is in every extant census from 1880 until 1940.
No evidence has been found that Oliver P Roberts died or left for parts unknown about 1911.
No evidence exists that Oliver P Roberts and Brushy Bill Roberts were two different men.
Brushy Bill/William Henry Roberts has not been found in any census record. Skeptics speculate that records after 1910 of Oliver Roberts, Oliver Pleasant Roberts, O. L. Roberts, and Ollie Roberts might be an alias of Brushy Bill.
No record has been found of Brushy’s parents, J. H, Roberts and Mary Adeline Dunn; half-brother James Roberts; or cousin Ollie Roberts.
No credible record has been found of his incredible exploits.
Sonnichsen said of Brushy Bill’s story, “Much of it may be fiction. It is impossible about now to say much of it is true.”
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Post by Wayne Land on Sept 7, 2018 21:00:06 GMT -5
Your habit of always going back to those tired claims of Brushy's claim being fraudulent are nothing more than a diversion from the question that was asked. And your answer to the question about him weeping was "sarcastic". It was sarcastic because the idea that a grown man would "cry" because he wasn't sure of the layout of the building is beyond ridiculous. Answering the question with such a ridiculous assertion is sarcasm.
Regarding your quote of Sonnichsen, I think you got it wrong. Didn't you leave out the word "much"? As in "impossible now to say "how" much of it is true." I too, like Sonnichsen do not believe every word of Brushy's story. But I do that Sonnichsen, like me, did believe that Brushy was Billy The Kid. Consider this quote from page 90.
"In the midst of all these pros and cons, the original fact remains unaltered. Brushy Bill knew too much to have been an outsider. He was not a literate man and could never have read up on his subject. His recollections are too detailed and precise to have come from oral sources. He must have been there, in the flesh, when these things happened."
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Post by Wayne Land on Sept 7, 2018 21:00:08 GMT -5
Your habit of always going back to those tired claims of Brushy's claim being fraudulent are nothing more than a diversion from the question that was asked. And your answer to the question about him weeping was "sarcastic". It was sarcastic because the idea that a grown man would "cry" because he wasn't sure of the layout of the building is beyond ridiculous. Answering the question with such a ridiculous assertion is sarcasm.
Regarding your quote of Sonnichsen, I think you got it wrong. Didn't you leave out the word "much"? As in "impossible now to say "how" much of it is true." I too, like Sonnichsen do not believe every word of Brushy's story. But I do think that Sonnichsen, like me, did believe that Brushy was Billy The Kid. Consider this quote from page 90.
"In the midst of all these pros and cons, the original fact remains unaltered. Brushy Bill knew too much to have been an outsider. He was not a literate man and could never have read up on his subject. His recollections are too detailed and precise to have come from oral sources. He must have been there, in the flesh, when these things happened."
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Sept 8, 2018 13:43:55 GMT -5
It is said that Brushy Bill was very reluctant to go inside the courthouse in Lincoln and even shed tears before Morrison convinced him to go in. Why would an old man from Arkansas get so emotional about that place? Assuming it is true Morrison observed what Sonnichsen described, there are differing explanations. If Brushy Bill were Billy the Kid, memory of the traumatic events that transpired in the courthouse could have triggered Brushy’s emotional response. If Brushy Bill was Oliver P. Roberts pretending to be Billy the Kid, a lack of familiarity with the layout of the courthouse and events might expose him as a fraud, triggering his emotional response. If Brushy Bill was pretending to be Billy the Kid and confident of the layout of the curthouse, his emotional response might be a tribute to Brushy’s acting skills. |
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Post by hooch on Mar 20, 2019 10:59:34 GMT -5
'his school teacher from Silver City even said he could write equally well with both hands.'
'Bill knew too much to have been an outsider. He was not a literate man and could never have read up on his subject.'
Ol Lyin Brushy mysteriously became illiterate lol, must have been an act of God. Can't believe anyone believes this guys BS
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Post by Turner N. on Mar 20, 2019 13:03:50 GMT -5
Hooch! In letter by Morrison he wrote that Sonnichsen meant to say that Brushy was not a literary man. It's obvious that they did mean he was not a literate man because they clearly talk about the notebooks he kept and the letters they wrote back forth. Brushy wrote many letters back and forth with people (Henry J. Walker, Uncle Kit, Morrison) and he spoke of being Billy the Kid in them so it could not have been his wife writing them because she didn't know he was Billy. Not only that but Brushy's signature matches Billy's signature perfectly! And they both spelled their name as Billie. It's no wonder you don't understand why we believe in this stuff, but stick around and maybe you'll find out.
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Post by Turner N. on Mar 20, 2019 13:05:28 GMT -5
* They did not mean
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Post by hooch on Mar 20, 2019 14:20:27 GMT -5
pics please
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Post by Guest on May 13, 2019 6:46:22 GMT -5
It is said that Brushy Bill was very reluctant to go inside the courthouse in Lincoln and even shed tears before Morrison convinced him to go in. Why would an old man from Arkansas get so emotional about that place? That’s a bit pathetic, surely? Doesn’t establish his identity as Billy the Kid; he could have been the porter. |
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