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Post by kerry on Feb 6, 2020 23:33:00 GMT -5
Paulita Maxwell may not have thought much of Billy's tin type image - but she was impressed by his likeness in a child born in Fort Sumner..she did not name the proud mother but did say the child was a girl that lived to see 8 years -descendants say the child was a boy mascarading as a girl that his name was Pat and that Garrett was the god father !
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 7, 2020 6:05:08 GMT -5
Paulita Maxwell may not have thought much of Billy's tin type image - but she was impressed by his likeness in a child born in Fort Sumner..she did not name the proud mother but did say the child was a girl that lived to see 8 years -descendants say the child was a boy mascarading as a girl that his name was Pat and that Garrett was the god father ! Thanks for the reply Kerry, thats sad thay she died this young, and have ever about him having a son that died of old age?
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Post by kerry on Feb 7, 2020 11:27:35 GMT -5
Hi There..all the deception was to protect Billy's son by passing him off a a girl - by the time he was 8 years old the deception had to end - Chino Silva recalled from his grandfather -Billy being able to mascarade as a girl .I think the story simply got corrupted by time and referred to Billy's son and obviously not Billy himself. The more prominent families in old Fort Sumner would have known and a descendant has said (on U Tube) that his uncle Pat lived to old age ...Billy's paternal DNA exists and may still have some live recipients -there is once again another story that doesn't mention Brushy Bill -saying William Bonney would stay at safe houses whenever he visited Fort Sumner by bus to visit his grandchildren..So many stories over so many years -without falsification the truth can get distorted ..I like Paulita's words - she was very careful in what she said - and Burns had to be careful what he reported !She gave gave a exquisite description of life in the Old Fort in her teenage years -so late in her life - her lifetime possession was her photo album and yet she never kept or liked the BTK tin type which she or her mother -gave away and was said to have been lost in a house fire.
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 7, 2020 12:05:52 GMT -5
Wow Ill look for that video on youtube, lets hope its still there, thanks again!
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Post by kerry on Feb 7, 2020 13:38:49 GMT -5
Think it was called the Santa Rosa Supplement? any way he was a descendant of Buck Annya -JP at the time and father of the girl who had the child...he also said a regulator who had been badly wounded at the breakout from Mc Sween's house - later settled in Fort Sumner and married the mother when the child was aged 2. Buck was a butcher in the Fort and bought cattle from Billy..he presided over at least the first Coroners' Jury for which it was said Garrett wrote the verdict which would have been in English but at least one verdict that survived was in Spanish...the descendant had no doubt that the DNA is there..a very sincere story in my view ..
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Feb 7, 2020 21:34:29 GMT -5
Wellll, yes, I'm sorry, it appears you are right about the form but my brain thought I actually remembered seeing the first name on the form and sometimes the books do not match the documents. I really do wish I knew where to see it one more time and I have seen it before somewhere. But either way on page 201 of Nolan's West book it says that there is little to no doubt that his name was Michael because Catherine reported herself as a widow of Michael McCarty in the 1868 Indianapolis City Directory. Jack DeMattos, in a 1978 article in Real West magazine, page 19, stated that the 1867 Indianapolis City Directory recorded that "Catherine McCarty, widow of Michael, lived at 385 North Jersey Street".
Nothing has been found that proves the widow Catherine McCarty living at 385 North Jersey Street was the same Catherine McCarty that married William Antrim.
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Post by huckleberry87 on Feb 12, 2020 9:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by kerry on Feb 12, 2020 17:25:06 GMT -5
Yes - these are the video clips...one from descendants of the Anaya family and one from Jesus Silva's grandson.Both insist a shotgun was used which was the cover story for the Fort Sumner residents involved in case Pat Garrett's fraud was exposed - they could claim the face was unidentifiable...
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Post by chivato88 on Feb 12, 2020 17:39:42 GMT -5
Yes very interesting videos thank you so much for the links😀
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Post by mckinley412 on Mar 4, 2020 15:47:56 GMT -5
there used to be a video on youtube where an old timer talked about how his grandma received letters from Billy the Kid and that he died in Mexico, I think he named Perral but I cant be certain and the video has disappeared but I have made connections to Perral. I really dont think it is true because I believe Brushy was the Kid.
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Post by Elwood on Nov 12, 2023 14:52:29 GMT -5
Well, yes, I'm sorry, it appears you are right about the form but my brain thought I actually remembered seeing the first name on the form and sometimes the books do not match the documents. I really do wish I knew where to see it one more time and I have seen it before somewhere. But either way on page 201 of Nolan's West book it says that there is little to no doubt that his name was Michael because Catherine reported herself as a widow of Michael McCarty in the 1868 Indianapolis City Directory.
Billy the Kid article that was published in the USA Today newspapers last week: news.yahoo.com/billy-kid-famous-old-west-153016536.htmlAbout the Kid's life in Indianapolis, Indiana during the 1860s.
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