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Post by 44colt on Sept 27, 2014 13:38:16 GMT -5
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Post by 44colt on Sept 27, 2014 14:24:52 GMT -5
Here is a photo of Buffalo Bill c. 1900 with some of his riders. The guy second from right could be Brushy. This website www.curtrich.com/hats2.html talks about the various types of western hats and in reference to this photo says "Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, 1900-Bill's hat has almost a modern cattleman style to it. But his troopers sport open crowns or Montana Peak hats and relatively flat brims." As you look at the photos that appears correct except for the Brushy looking guy second from the right. He is wearing a "Boss of the Plains" hat which was common with Texans, including the Texas Rangers. Now compare the hat this Buffalo Bill rider is wearing the hat Brushy is wearing in the background photo on this forum. Same style hat. Likewise compare the hat in the Billy the Kid Tintype with the hat the Rough Rider Bronc Buster is wearing. Both high crown hats common in Texas and that Bronc Rider is the only one wearing this style hat. The others are wearing "Montana Peak" hats (3 men on left) or a "Boss of the Plains" (one guy on right). www.flickr.com/photos/128163161@N04/15371370541/in/photostream/All very interesting.
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Post by 44colt on Sept 27, 2014 15:39:01 GMT -5
Here is a composite photo with Billy the Kid and the "Bronc Buster" Rough Rider 2nd from the right. As you can see when scaled correctly (heels on the ground) the two are exactly the same height and similar dimensions, although the Rough Rider looks to have slightly more muscle on him than the Kid which would make sense since he would have been a full grown man by this time. Bottom line is that everything matches up to Brushy's story perfectly. Its extremely unlikely a Billy the Kid imposter would have focused on Billy the Kids horse breaking ability instead of gunplay or some other more exciting aspect of the kid's life.
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Post by MissyS on Sept 27, 2014 19:28:13 GMT -5
44colt, Thanks for all your interesting documents Billy had a very unique sloping shoulder and this man you matched with Billy also had that sloping shoulder, the boots look very similar also, very interesting stuff , I enjoyed that film, those dances made me laugh, Brushy very well could be in that film!, those historical documents that collaberates Brushy's interviews lends credence that he had to been telling the truth. The proof keeps stacking up, thanks to you and others that spend the time to do the research, and find historical documents and do facial comparisons etc.. we may be closer to not needing DNA to prove Brushy was Billy The Kid , Thanks for posting these Im glad you joined the board.
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Post by James Dutton on May 12, 2019 9:13:03 GMT -5
We all want a hero but I don't believe brushy bill was the kid the face doesn't match Pat killed him n that's it Elvis lives Billy the kid lived but Billy and Elvis died when they were reported to have died sorry
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Post by lacowboy on May 12, 2019 13:44:12 GMT -5
We all want a hero but I don't believe brushy bill was the kid the face doesn't match Pat killed him n that's it Elvis lives Billy the kid lived but Billy and Elvis died when they were reported to have died sorry You say that as if it were a FACT! Facts can be proven, there's no proof Garrett killed Billy only speculation.
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Post by historysleuth on Feb 27, 2021 15:33:30 GMT -5
I’m not the best but I’ll try, plus wanting to say I’m planning on getting your book and the preivew is really good.
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Post by historysleuth on Feb 27, 2021 15:46:53 GMT -5
While observing it I noticed that the hat the man in the footage is wearing is the exact same one Brushy is wearing in this photo which was taken around the same time. The clothing is also quite similar in the esthetic of it. Also important to note is the collar, which is in a pointed shape which is the same type of collar Brushy wears. The face is tricky as the resolution is overall low, but just enough for some good evidence. The shape of the head of the man in the footage is an oval shape with strong cheekbones as well as dark hair, just like Brushy. Another thing to mention is the stature of the man in the footage is remarkable to that of Brushys. In short I believe this is in fact Brushy and you just hit a jackpot for the Brushy community
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Post by historysleuth on Feb 28, 2021 14:18:26 GMT -5
www.loc.gov/item/00694113The long video you found actually was put together from multiple clips by a man on YouTube around 2010. This link is to the original one which is in better resolution
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Post by historysleuth on Feb 28, 2021 14:21:00 GMT -5
But sadly this isn’t Brushy. Even though it matched quite well, it’s in fact Lee Martin and it says so on its own Wikipedia page of the bucking bronco
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Post by RonBk on Feb 28, 2021 16:19:15 GMT -5
But sadly this isn’t Brushy. Even though it matched quite well, it’s in fact Lee Martin and it says so on its own Wikipedia page of the bucking bronco Could you post a link to the Wikipedia page youre referring to?
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also history sleuth
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Post by also history sleuth on Mar 1, 2021 11:27:48 GMT -5
I can't post the link since this is on a computer but its title is and I quote "Bucking Broncho" that's the exact way its spelled without the quotations. it says it was produced by William Kennedy Dickinson in 1894
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also history sleuth
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Post by also history sleuth on Mar 1, 2021 11:29:11 GMT -5
I am the same person as history sleuth, its just I'm on my proper account on the weekends, limited in screen time on the weekdays
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Post by historysleuth on Mar 2, 2021 10:40:18 GMT -5
I can confirm that that guest was me
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Post by Wayne Land on Mar 2, 2021 11:21:48 GMT -5
Here's the link to that video on Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucking_BronchoWhile this is not Brushy I do find the shirt to be of interest. Notice the design on the front of the shirt. It is similar to the shirt Brushy is wearing in the photo of him on horseback next to the wooden building (post up above). Also look at the the rider fourth from the left in the photo with Buffalo Bill. I'm not saying the shirts are identical but they are similar. Is that a coincidence? Was that type of shirt design wide spread and popular in the 1890's? I don't know, just observing.
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