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Post by leeb on Sept 7, 2019 12:22:05 GMT -5
I don't think the kid would have hung around and played dead to a passing audience. Jesus Silva witnessed that the kid proceeded to cut his own beef after they had spoken.
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Post by nmjames on Sept 8, 2019 21:34:42 GMT -5
MissyS,
Did you get this story from the March 1980 Frontier Times or did it come from W.C. Jameson?
nmjames
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Post by MissyS on Sept 8, 2019 22:26:55 GMT -5
nmjames, I got this info from the Frontier Times, I have this magazine, the story is entitled "Ride to Mexico Billy"
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Post by nmjames on Sept 8, 2019 23:01:45 GMT -5
Thanks MissyS,
Back in 2012, I did a lot of research on John Collins. The story as you post it sounds like three different stories. I was able to find John Collins (Abraham J. Graham) grave in El Paso, TX. for the family but don't agree with them that he was the John Collins that rode with Billy the Kid and was in the LCW. I have a lot of information on all of this but there is to much to post.
Thanks, nmjames
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Post by MissyS on Sept 8, 2019 23:43:38 GMT -5
nmjames, The magazine article is a bit long and does go into another story about a supposed visit to a ranch by a man that could be Billy in the 1920's, it's two stories seems like, but the photo posted earlier on this thread with the description saying it's John Graham alias John Collins is also in the Frontier Times Magazine with the story by Kemp, however it points out the photo as being "Gunny Sack Johnny" Graham, one of the men that supposedly buried Billy The Kid. So looks like "Gunny Sack Johnny" was a nickname or name they called Johnny Graham. John Collins may have used the same nickname if he was Johnny Graham? I don't know if you have ever came across John Collins going by that nickname in your research, but I thought it may be significant anyway to help.
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Post by Mac on Oct 31, 2020 15:58:41 GMT -5
You get this sort of confusion when someone of notoriety is killed. Mostly it's dredged up by those who refuse to accept reality. Jesse James, John Wilkes Booth, Curly Bill Brocious, John Dillinger,are examples, however, none of them was seen alive again. The reason for that is that they all died as history records.
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Post by kerry on Nov 2, 2020 0:09:58 GMT -5
We live in a far different world than the second half of the nineteenth century .. Maybe we underestimate their survival skills back then - in a far more sparse and disconnected world -maybe they were smarter than we are today ...maybe you really could disappear back then in a way impossible today.Brushy knew Evans was alive when for over 50 years he was believed to be dead...so much so that he needed Morrison to prove who he legally was.
BTK carried a death sentence for the rest of his life and enemies that could threaten those close to him..he had more to lose than anyone else mentioned as never being seen again and more reason to stay that way -until Morrison and old age caught up with BTK.
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