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Post by tboor74 on Jul 11, 2021 1:24:31 GMT -5
It may just be the old hand / wrist ratio, teamed with old fashioned, one sized cuffs. Apparently John Miller could do the same trick.
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Post by cassandra jane on Jul 11, 2021 9:24:17 GMT -5
What about something like a Boutonnière deformity? If the apparent spots on his hand weren’t caused by light reflections/splotches on the photographs themselves, nor by injuries he inherited, Boutonnière deformity might be something to consider (link: www.assh.org/handcare/condition/boutonniere-deformity). I think that disorder is also linked to arthritic issues (possibly hence the walking stick).
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Post by MissyS on Jul 11, 2021 17:06:41 GMT -5
The link did not come up for me, but I looked up Boutonniere-deformity, and I’m wondering if a person was to constantly practice shooting a firearm over a period of time if it could develop into this condition over time or another condition? A shooter basically uses the index finger and thumb a lot, and the joints in those over excessive use could result in them becoming dislocated, and there’s the gun powder residue on the hands over a period of time, I don’t know if it can cause a skin condition or not?, it’s been said that lead poisoning has long been associated with longtime use of firearms as well. Bronco riding and boxing could also take a toll on the hands. It’s just a guess that these things could be a factor in developing a hand condition? I don’t know?
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Post by cassandra jane on Jul 11, 2021 17:12:05 GMT -5
The link did not come up for me, but I looked up Boutonniere-deformity, and I’m wondering if a person was to constantly practice shooting a firearm over a period of time if it could develop into this condition over time or another condition? A shooter basically uses the index finger and thumb a lot, and the joints in those over excessive use could result in them becoming dislocated, and there’s the gun powder residue on the hands over a period of time, I don’t know if it can cause a skin condition or not?, it’s been said that lead poisoning has long been associated with longtime use of firearms as well. Bronco riding and boxing could also take a toll on the hands. It’s just a guess that these things could be a factor in developing a hand condition? I don’t know? That’s what I was thinking too. The amount of trauma all that fighting would cause, especially if he wilfully injured himself slipping out of those handcuffs - it’s bound to leave a permanent impression or several. Of course, the EDS possibility might still be valid, because he could have gained numerous cuts if he was trying to drag not just his hands, but excess skin through the handcuffs too. I felt dupuytren’s contracture was less likely because (if I remember right) it renders bones etc thicker and basically immovable as the disease progresses (but don’t quote me on that until I double check). Edit for definition: Dupuytren's contracture happens when the tissue under the skin near your fingers becomes thicker and less flexible. The exact cause is unknown, but it's been linked to: • having a family history of the condition • smoking • drinking lots of alcohol • having diabetes or epilepsy Seemingly the fingers can be straightened out but if they don’t know much about it with today’s medical advances, I doubt they’d have known anything back then worth noting.
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