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Post by MissyS on Jan 21, 2019 3:22:28 GMT -5
Oluckyman, Those news clippings are quite interesting. In the one entitled "Billy The Kid Alive is Ridiculed by Oldtimers", further on in the article it lists some names of persons, the Coe's and Chisum and among a few others a name listed is a C.D. Bonney, I wonder how this person was affiliated with Billy? www.newspapers.com/clip/23429012/el_paso_herald/ |
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Post by leeb on Jan 21, 2019 12:33:50 GMT -5
I think I've seen c d bonney was an indian scout working with captain Scott. He was known as the oldtimer and was around the Roswell area early 1880's
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Post by leeb on Jan 21, 2019 13:34:44 GMT -5
CD moved to Roswell from Mississippi in 1881, he was known as the oldtimer in a later interview. Apparently had business dealings with Poe in 1884 but can't find any link to the kid yet???
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Post by nmjames on Jan 21, 2019 20:58:27 GMT -5
oluckyman:
Check the El Paso Times, March 6, 1951. This is when C.D. Bonney died. You can also look up his son Cecil Bonney, I think it was in the Roswell Newspaper on Sunday, November 21, 1971. In that article, Cecil Bonney is not related to William Bonney but His father, a pioneer Roswell merchant, sold Pat Garrett the ammunition which he carried to Fort Sumner to kill Billy the Kid.
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Post by 44colt on Jan 22, 2019 20:09:54 GMT -5
So, according to this, George Coe did NOT believe Billy was killed by Garrett.
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Post by 44colt on Jan 23, 2019 13:04:42 GMT -5
Interesting he got the death date wrong. July 13th, 1881.
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Post by MissyS on Jan 23, 2019 13:56:47 GMT -5
CD moved to Roswell from Mississippi in 1881, he was known as the oldtimer in a later interview. Apparently had business dealings with Poe in 1884 but can't find any link to the kid yet??? I thought maybe there could have been a possibility that C.D. Bonney was a person Billy had met on the run that was a help to him, a sort of mentor, or a father figure that Billy looked up too, admired and respected and so thought to adopt his name as an alias? But since C.D. moved to Roswell from Mississippi in 1881, then that pretty much ends that possibility. Thanks for researching it Leeb  |
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Post by mckinley412 on Jun 11, 2019 15:57:34 GMT -5
and the first book ever written on Billy gives another account which is rarely heard. Author: Edmund Fable Jr. True Life of Billy the Kid. amazon.com.
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Post by MissyS on Aug 5, 2019 1:26:37 GMT -5
One inconsistency of the shooting was that there was an account that Garrett had stated that he knew it was Billy that came in the room because he had recognized his voice, but in his book "The Authentic Life of Billy The Kid", Garrett said he first thought the man that entered the room could have been Manuel Abreu; Pete Maxwell's brother-in-law, the thought crossed his mind that Abreu seen Poe and McKinney and wanted to know what their business was, and according to Garrett's book when Billy approached the bed Garrett whispered to Pete "Who is it" and he received no reply for a moment and the thought struck him that it could have been Manuel Abreu, Billy then put both hands on the bed and asked Pete "Who are they?" Pete then whispered to Garrett "It's him" before Garrett shot him. So by reading that account it doesn't sound like to me that Pat Garrett recognized Billy from his voice but only knew it was him because Pete Maxwell told him it was.
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Post by MissyS on Aug 5, 2019 16:57:52 GMT -5
Herman B. Weisner postulated that BTK was related to James Bonney, an early NM settler. It would be worth seeing if C. D. Bonney was related to James Bonney in some way - could provide a possible lead, or at least provide a better context in which to work. oluckyman, Sorry about my post above I didn't mean to get off topic , I was looking for the thread about the different versions of the shooting and I posted the post on the wrong thread. About the name Bonney, I don't know how true it is, but I read about a childhood friend of Billy's in Silver City that said Billy used to brag about being related to Anne Bonny she was an Irish woman (c. 1700 - c. 1782) who became a famous pirate. Billy probably read a book about her adventures and noted the name and exaggerated about being related, or there may could be something more to it? I wonder if Ann Bonny's ancestry could be researched somehow? |
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Post by mckinley412 on Aug 26, 2019 23:25:47 GMT -5
in the first published account of what happened it says Billy was disguised as a Mexican so Pat followed him and shot him.
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