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Post by wannabe12 on May 11, 2018 21:45:15 GMT -5
For Poe to say he backed into the doorway, and then stuck his head out again makes sense, since he was backing away from them into the shelter of the house. As for Garrett saying he backed into the room, maybe he was heading towards the room, not knowing that Garrett was there, and when Poe came up behind him trying to reassure him that they meant him no harm,he turned as he was at the door and backed through it. Leading to Garret's description.
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Post by wannabe12 on May 11, 2018 21:51:40 GMT -5
MissyS, I didnt see your first response to my post before answering the second. Not sure why the difference in describing the trees. It could be over time Silva thought it was a cottonwood tree, but it is close enough in description, to what Garrett said that it has to be considered. I don't take anything as being directed at me personally, I like to debate people that have differing opinions than mine.
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Post by mckinley412 on May 12, 2018 2:03:36 GMT -5
Just scanning this thread, Brushy didn't make up his family tree even if authors/publishers did, whether by accident and/or on purpose. And someone said Jameson was a student of Sonnichsen...I don't think so. I really don't think so.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on May 12, 2018 10:09:06 GMT -5
“I don't think so. I really don't think so.”
Thain, Please refer to page 27, “Billy the Kid the Lost Interviews”, by W. C. Jameson.
“In 1962 I was enrolled in an English class taught by Dr. Sonnichsen at Texas Western University (now the University of Texas at El Paso).”
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on May 12, 2018 10:21:47 GMT -5
“Brushy didn't make up his family tree even if authors/publishers did, whether by accident and/or on purpose.”
Thain, I agree that Brushy did not make up the family tree of his supposed genealogy found on page 90 of “The Return of the Outlaw Billy the Kid”.
No evidence has been found that supports any of the relationships in Brushy Bill’s story that his parents were J. H. “Wild Henry” Roberts and Mary Adeline Ferguson; that he had a grandfather named Ben Roberts; a half-brother named James Roberts; a cousin named Ollie Roberts; or a cousin name Martha Heath. The lack of any credible evidence indicates that Brushy Bill fabricated his family.
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Post by MissyS on May 13, 2018 18:53:36 GMT -5
For Poe to say he backed into the doorway, and then stuck his head out again makes sense, since he was backing away from them into the shelter of the house. As for Garrett saying he backed into the room, maybe he was heading towards the room, not knowing that Garrett was there, and when Poe came up behind him trying to reassure him that they meant him no harm,he turned as he was at the door and backed through it. Leading to Garret's description. That sounds very possible and would explain Poe 's version, but I thought Garrett said Billy sprang into the room?
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Post by wannabe12 on May 13, 2018 21:13:25 GMT -5
Don't remeber the exact wording,but that sounds right. Could have moved quickly away from Poe to get into the bedroom, and surprised Garrett by doing so. One thing I really don't buy is the fact that the bullet hole in the washstand can be attributed without doubt to Garrett. It was in that shed for a long, long time between 1881, and when Steve Sedarwall found it to look at it. Anyone could have shot a hole in it with a bullet that contained lead. I do believe that Garrett would have been in such a state that he may not remember everything he did, because he was trying in his mind to keep from being killed. Eyewitness accounts including law enforcement can be somewhat unreliable at times, especially in a situation like that. Things happen quickly, and in reacting, things happen without you realizing it, so you actually remember very little of the actual event, but recall things before and after more clearly.
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Post by MissyS on May 17, 2018 9:33:10 GMT -5
The bullet hole in the washstand could have been made any time, but if someone remembers it being shot at during that shoot out, and it's in fact the same wash stand from the room, then the odds that it was made by Garrett is propably pretty high? Im imagining the word sprang is like jumped, so Im wondering just how easy it is to spring or jump with a gun in one hand and a knife in the other? Wouldn't this be difficult? But maybe the word Sprang meant something different?
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Post by mckinley412 on Aug 17, 2018 17:04:14 GMT -5
“I don't think so. I really don't think so.” Thain, Please refer to page 27, “Billy the Kid the Lost Interviews”, by W. C. Jameson. “In 1962 I was enrolled in an English class taught by Dr. Sonnichsen at Texas Western University... I like that you cited a source and I believe it. I don't even own Lost Interviews because I think it is fake, ever since I read it, when it first came out. Very recently, my suspicions were somewhat/mostly confirmed. Jameson always responded to me until I brought this up, also. I don't own the new book either.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Aug 17, 2018 18:49:18 GMT -5
“I don't think so. I really don't think so.” Thain, Please refer to page 27, “Billy the Kid the Lost Interviews”, by W. C. Jameson. “In 1962 I was enrolled in an English class taught by Dr. Sonnichsen at Texas Western University... I like that you cited a source and I believe it. I don't even own Lost Interviews because I think it is fake, ever since I read it, when it first came out. Very recently, my suspicions were somewhat/mostly confirmed. Jameson always responded to me until I brought this up, also. I don't own the new book either. mckinley412, Very little information found in “Billy the Kid the Lost Interviews”, by W. C. Jameson, can be confirmed. Lizzie did have a grandson, William "Bill" Allison, who had inherited a trunk. Frederic Bean contacted Allison in 1989, a few years before the death of William Edward Allison Jr. (1 July 1929 - 11 Feb 1996). Jameson correctly identified Barbara June (Morrison) Kuchler as a daughter of William V Morrison. She no longer had any of Morrison's research. Those are the facts. Everything else in the book must be accepted on faith, not fact.
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Post by chivato88 on Jan 28, 2023 20:07:51 GMT -5
Just finished it and this book was a real eye opener for me. People are afraid to know the truth because of money, that's stupid. Tourists would still go into Fort Sumner if Brushy turned out to be Billy, it was his headquarters, it would still be historic, also his 2 pals are burried there for sure. Everyone should work together to solve this once and for all, Sederwall has many tools to finish the job but they wont let him, what a shame...Anyways, awesome read, I recommend!
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Post by devorerd on Jan 31, 2023 12:51:03 GMT -5
I like that you cited a source and I believe it. I don't even own Lost Interviews because I think it is fake, ever since I read it, when it first came out. Very recently, my suspicions were somewhat/mostly confirmed. Jameson always responded to me until I brought this up, also. I don't own the new book either. mckinley412, Very little information found in “Billy the Kid the Lost Interviews”, by W. C. Jameson, can be confirmed. Lizzie did have a grandson, William "Bill" Allison, who had inherited a trunk. Frederic Bean contacted Allison in 1989, a few years before the death of William Edward Allison Jr. (1 July 1929 - 11 Feb 1996). Jameson correctly identified Barbara June (Morrison) Kuchler as a daughter of William V Morrison. She no longer had any of Morrison's research. Those are the facts. Everything else in the book must be accepted on faith, not fact. I think the same can be said for a lot of books, including Garrett's.
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