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Post by MissyS on Jul 11, 2018 14:18:43 GMT -5
Hello Everyone,
I have some exciting news to share with you. I recently hired a Professional Forensic Artist to compare my tintypes, and she said Sheriff William Brady and my tintype are a positive match.
Wildblue Wildblue Thats Awesome, Thanks for sharing the news
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Post by mckinley412 on Jul 22, 2018 22:48:02 GMT -5
Can I give that professional a photo of Billy the Kid too? Can they authenticate it? I'll split the money.
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Post by wildblue on Jan 20, 2019 20:45:36 GMT -5
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Post by Elwood on Jan 27, 2020 10:19:42 GMT -5
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Post by gracie on Feb 17, 2020 2:49:18 GMT -5
I've received some photos from one of our newest member "wildblue" who has some photo to share and needed help getting them posted. There are 9 tintypes altogether, who are thought to be, "William Bonney, Sherriff William Brady, Ygenio Salazar, John/Sallie Chisum, Richard Dick Brewer and his much younger brother Micheal, Paulita Maxwell, Dan Dietrich/Charlie Bowdre, Odelia Maxwell when she was around 13, and the last tintype I think may be a very young Paulita and her Mother." I'm posting the photos in separate posts for review. "wildblue" will comment on each post for more information. Here are the first two:: These first two tintypes appear to be foreign (not made in the USA). This is due to the style of dress and the setting. The first one is from approx. 1870. The photo of the man and the little boy -- I think there is more than 16 years separating their age. The man has male pattern baldness and a good moustache. He has to be in his 20's.
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Post by gracie on Feb 17, 2020 21:38:13 GMT -5
One thing to remember is that tintypes are mostly from the 1860s, 1870s. The carte de visite (CDV) appeared around 1860 and people preferred to get their photos taken on paper because they could be duplicated. CDVs went out of style in the 1880s because cabinet cards came in and they were so much larger and showed more detail. Cabinet Cards were popular from 1880 to around 1910. Daguerreotypes (cased photos on silver plate) were popular from the 1840s to around 1860, the same timeframe as the Ambrotype (another glass cased photo). This website can explain it better: www.aarp.org/relationships/genealogy/info-11-2011/dating-old-photos.htmlThe information on that website about clothing and photo backdrops is important too. The photo of the family looks like it was taken by a traveling tintype photographer (no fancy background). Same thing with the photo of the man with the boy. The Paulita Maxwell photos I'm seeing on the internet all appear to be paper photos (CDVs or Cabinet Cards). It's possible she could be in a tintype, but that would have been when she was younger, versus older. The photo in the black dress was typical of photos taken right around the Civil War. I'm not sure if these women were Civil War widows or what but you see lots of black dresses then.
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Post by wildblue on Feb 19, 2020 12:21:50 GMT -5
Gracie,
Thank you for your observations and opinions about my tintypes, and for information about old photographs. I appreciate it very much! I have 2 questions for you:
1. How do you know in my tintype the dress she's wearing is black?
2. Would a Civil War widow wear a flower corsage like the one in my photo?
Thanks! Wildblue
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Post by gracie on Feb 19, 2020 21:00:17 GMT -5
Gracie, Thank you for your observations and opinions about my tintypes, and for information about old photographs. I appreciate it very much! I have 2 questions for you: 1. How do you know in my tintype the dress she's wearing is black? 2. Would a Civil War widow wear a flower corsage like the one in my photo? Thanks! Wildblue I don't know that the dress is black. Perhaps I should have said "dark colors" but I always assumed the women were wearing black because they had dark fingerless gloves a lot of times. Anyway, it was just a really popular color for dresses in early CDVs (which would have been around the time of the Civil War). As CDVs became more popular, the mounts got fancier (the paper backing is the "mount") so you can always tell newer CDVs from older ones. One other thing you see a lot in CDVs is mourning jewelry. Here is an article that talks about mourning jewelry and also all that dark clothing! www.incollect.com/articles/in-death-lamented-the-tradition-of-anglo-american-mourning-jewelry
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Post by wildblue on Feb 20, 2020 17:37:50 GMT -5
My tintypes have had almost 5000 views. I appreciate everyone's interest in my collection. Here is a copy of the forensic report for the Sherriff William Brady tintype. Authentication credit goes to:
Melissa R. Cooper Forensic Artist mcooper@mcforensicart.com mcforensicart.com
Who gave permission for this to be shared.
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Post by MissyS on Dec 10, 2020 18:34:18 GMT -5
View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentI am not sure who these two are but I am leaning toward a young Paulita Maxwell and her mother or one of Paulitas sisters. I have put up a side by side comparison of my Paulita tintype and the young girl in the photo above. Your photo of the lady with the younger girl, the lady in it does have a strong resemblance to my photo I thought could be a possible resemblance to Catherine Antrim. Can it be the same lady?
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Post by wildblue on Dec 11, 2020 7:45:41 GMT -5
MissyS
I don't know if it's the same lady, but they strongly resemble each other. I have seen one photo of Ana Maria de la Luz Beaubien Maxwell. In this photo (if its really her) she is very old. Was she French Canadian? I'm unable to determine the date of your photo by looking at her clothing, maybe someone will comment and help in that area. The woman in your picture is wearing jewelry, earrings, and a brooch with a bow hanging. Makes me wonder if she was middle class to upper class. It is fun to entertain the possibility, but almost impossible to prove! Remember to "Leave no stone unturned!" Your picture is really clear and interesting, thank you for sharing! Wildblue
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Post by clydec on Dec 13, 2020 15:39:35 GMT -5
Brushy identified everyone including himself in the photo when he met with the Jones brothers in 1949. Top row, Jim Jones and Brushy, bottom row Trail boss Fred Speaks and John Jones who was later shot and killed by Bob Olinger. The Jones brothers who met with Brushy confirmed that everything he said about the photo was correct.
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Post by tboor74 on Dec 14, 2020 6:49:37 GMT -5
This and the Sedillo story are major focus points. How did Brushy know who was in the pic (I believe it was a family pic when the Jones' showed him) and how did he know about the Sedillo girl across the river? Forget everything else, these 2 points on their own are fascinating.
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Post by RonBk on Dec 14, 2020 13:21:43 GMT -5
Yes I agree. Those 2 points alone proves Brushy was telling the truth beyond the shadow of a doubt, in my opinion. Or to be fair, lets say they prove it to 90 percent. Then add the Gallegos affadavit and its at least 100 percent
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Post by wildblue on Dec 23, 2020 16:16:03 GMT -5
youtu.be/Tgc3H1OZxz0Hello everyone here is a video of my tintypes and their comparisons. Take a look if you want.
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