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Post by MissyS on May 30, 2017 16:28:15 GMT -5
I was wondering about what Brushy was supposed to have said in the Jameson's book "The Lost Interviews" Brushy was discussing the battle which took place in Mexico around June 1899 Brushy and about 30 cowboys fought and ran for 12 days, on the 13th morning Brushy said they crossed the Rio Grande just below Del Rio. Brushy then says " I had a cousin there on the Ranger force and he helped us with food." What cousin could he be referring to that was a Ranger? Was Brushy misquoted? Did Brushy have a cousin that was a Ranger?
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Post by mckinley412 on May 31, 2017 22:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by mckinley412 on May 31, 2017 22:26:40 GMT -5
I guess I really need to read that book again. I'll see if I can ask around about his cousin the Ranger. In the meanwhile here is an old newspaper article in which Billy is telling a Mr. Duncan that he has a residence in Texas and that he doesn't give out his real name, etc because he has respectable law abiding citizens in his family. Maybe even Texas Rangers...
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Post by nmjames on Jun 1, 2017 0:10:26 GMT -5
Thain
I love the story: Billy The Kid. In the Robber's Castle -- You know it's not true, I hope! Great story about Billy but I like the answer better. Billy The Kid --His Name was Billy McCarthy and he was born in New York. This man goes on to tell the true story of Billy the Kid and not a made up story like Mr. Duncan.
The story is about Duncan meeting Billy the Kid at his Castle and how fine he dresses. Mr. Duncan was a correspondent of the Philadelphia Times.
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Post by mckinley412 on Jun 1, 2017 0:38:07 GMT -5
I am not familiar with the story and this was just a photo I found in some of my old junk. I couldn't read the rest of it. So you are saying this was never meant to be even an exaggerated true story but just a fictional story. I'll take your word for it. Thank you and I apologize for my oversight.
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Post by mckinley412 on Jun 1, 2017 1:01:47 GMT -5
I found the rest of the story. They are at least trying to convince the reader it is a true story. The castle is described exactly like the Torreon, don't you think. Not the same one in Lincoln but maybe a different one. Maybe they exaggerated most of the story. Missy, I asked someone to ask the Roberts family about any Texas Ranger cousins. I don't know if they will are not. Right now I'm trying to get invited to their family reunion because supposedly they have all these pictures of Brushy growing up to prove he isn't the kid. I don't expect to find anything important but I have to try anyway.
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Post by clydec on Jun 1, 2017 16:13:01 GMT -5
Thain, you would think if they had all those pics and wanted to prove that Brushy was not the kid they would put them out there for others to see and settle all this. I have only seen the one of the Roberts family with a supposedly teenage Brushy(although, he looks only around 9 or 10) and you can't get a good look at his face enough to compare it to the older Brushy.
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Post by MissyS on Jun 1, 2017 17:26:45 GMT -5
I found the rest of the story. They are at least trying to convince the reader it is a true story. The castle is described exactly like the Torreon, don't you think. Not the same one in Lincoln but maybe a different one. Maybe they exaggerated most of the story. Missy, I asked someone to ask the Roberts family about any Texas Ranger cousins. I don't know if they will are not. Right now I'm trying to get invited to their family reunion because supposedly they have all these pictures of Brushy growing up to prove he isn't the kid. I don't expect to find anything important but I have to try anyway. Thain, How cool that would be to be to see their photos of Brushy, It's a kinda stretch but I wonder if the cousin Brushy was refering to could be Joe Antrim? I don't know if he ever lived in Texas or ever was a Ranger for any brief period of time? I havent read much about his travels, Thank You for asking the someone to ask the Roberts, that's awesome. That castle story was interesting to read even though it's not true, because it reflects what the imaginations of him by people and the press at the time. Thanks for posting the article.
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Post by mckinley412 on Jun 7, 2017 20:17:28 GMT -5
Missy, I just got finished reading a detailed chapter about Joe in Rasch's Trailing Billy the Kid. It doesn't mention him living in Texas and sounds like he never would have been a Ranger if he had lived in Texas.
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Post by Texas Truth Teller on Jun 17, 2017 15:21:08 GMT -5
"Right now I'm trying to get invited to their family reunion because supposedly they have all these pictures of Brushy growing up to prove he isn't the kid."
Thain, Roy Haws is a great-grandson of Martha Vada Roberts Heath. Brushy said Marthq was his cousin. Census, death, and cemetery records she was a half-sister of Oliver P. Roberts.
His e-mail address is on the first page of his book, "Brushy Bill...Just Another Billy the Kid Tall Tale?"
Maybe there is a Roberts family reunion, maybe not. Maybe they have photos, maybe not. Who knows?
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Post by mckinley412 on Jun 17, 2017 21:04:12 GMT -5
The reunion and photos sounds kind of sketchy. I'm no longer pursuing it. If someone has unpublished photos they can post them. I'm not wasting my gas. I think someone was trying to bluff me.
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